Why Did My Second Approach to Finding the Block's Acceleration Fail?

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The discussion focuses on the failure of a second approach to calculating a block's acceleration due to inconsistencies in the choice of the y-direction in the equations. The first approach correctly utilized components of the normal force and weight, yielding the correct answer. In contrast, the second approach incorrectly switched the y-direction between the constraint equation and the force summation equation, leading to confusion and an incorrect result. This highlights the importance of maintaining consistent coordinate systems in physics calculations.

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Homework Statement
Find the blocks acceleration on a wedge.
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F=MA
I am currently solving this problem and approached it two different ways. I have attached a ss of the picture for reference.

On my first attempt, shown on the attached image in pen, I used a component of the normal force and weight as my forces in the y direction. I carried out the work and ended up getting the correct answer according to my book.

I then tried a different approach, as shown by the image with the whiteboard, and used the actual normal force and a component of the force of gravity. When I used this approach I got stuck and did not see anyway of attaining the correct answer.

What is incorrect about the 2nd approach that is preventing me from getting the right answer?
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In the whiteboard calculation, it looks like you are taking the y-direction to be perpendicular to the ground for the diagram and the constraint equation:
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But when you set up the ##\sum F_y## equation, you switch to taking the y-direction to be perpendicular to the plane (i.e., along the normal force ##N##):
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So, there is an inconsistency in the choice of the y-direction for the whiteboard calculation. ##y## in the constraint equation is not the same as the ##y## in the ##\sum F_y## equation.
 
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TSny said:
In the whiteboard calculation, it looks like you are taking the y-direction to be perpendicular to the ground for the diagram and the constraint equation:
View attachment 296975

But when you set up the ##\sum F_y## equation, you switch to taking the y-direction to be perpendicular to the plane (i.e., along the normal force ##N##):
View attachment 296976

So, there is an inconsistency in the choice of the y-direction for the whiteboard calculation. ##y## in the constraint equation is not the same as the ##y## in the ##\sum F_y## equation.
Thank you. That makes it very clear.
 

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