News Why Did the US Attack Iraq in 2003?

[amp]

Well, after reading the threads the pattern emerges

some here are Bush Admin plants (conspircy theory). LOL - MacTech those models look to be to advanced for him, yeah I said it. If the Prez was so forthcomming, was so cooperative, was so full of integrity, then why is the 9/11 committe being stonewalled when they have a deadline to meet, Phatmonkey, Russ you can't deny your heros gross exaggerations, distortions of known facts, and manipulation of the fears of the masses were not intentional and directed to a goal which appears to have put the US in greater danger as well as causing the needless deaths of so many of our troops. Question, why wasn't he supprised (or visibly shocked) when told what happened on 9/11.

 

[MacTech]

Originally posted by amp
some here are Bush Admin plants (conspircy theory). LOL - MacTech those models look to be to advanced for him, yeah I said it.

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WHAT!

even the keychain one! you can take that everywhere!

 

[Zero]

Originally posted by phatmonky
For it being so clear that the whole war was one big master plan, you guys sure have a tough time agreeing on why, or even who was behind it.

Looking for a simple black/white answer for complex geopolitical strategy? There are certainly multiple motives, and multiple people who have at least one motive, or multiple motives with varying priorities for each.

 

[member 5645]

Originally posted by Zero
Looking for a simple black/white answer for complex geopolitical strategy? There are certainly multiple motives, and multiple people who have at least one motive, or multiple motives with varying priorities for each.

Yeah, but you guys are sitting here bickering over which is the right ones, or if it was Bush or Cheney. \

 

[Zero]

Originally posted by amp
some here are Bush Admin plants (conspircy theory). LOL - MacTech those models look to be to advanced for him, yeah I said it. If the Prez was so forthcomming, was so cooperative, was so full of integrity, then why is the 9/11 committe being stonewalled when they have a deadline to meet, Phatmonkey, Russ you can't deny your heros gross exaggerations, distortions of known facts, and manipulation of the fears of the masses were not intentional and directed to a goal which appears to have put the US in greater danger as well as causing the needless deaths of so many of our troops. Question, why wasn't he supprised (or visibly shocked) when told what happened on 9/11.

Amp, you know they will defend Bush's actions and motives to the death, if necessary...of course they will, why would they change their minds now, just because of the overwhelming evidence?

 

[LURCH]

Originally posted by amp
Question, why wasn't he supprised (or visibly shocked) when told what happened on 9/11.

This self-contradicting position is getting way too popular. You can either criticize the current administartion for taking preemptive action in Iraq, OR for failing to take preemptive action in Afghanistan, but not both. Attacking a hostile middleeastern country to depose a maniacle leader who has vowed to attck the US, causing massive destruction and loss of life, is either right or wrong, please choose one and stick with it.

 

[Zero]

Originally posted by LURCH
This self-contradicting position is getting way too popular. You can either criticize the current administartion for taking preemptive action in Iraq, OR for failing to take preemptive action in Afghanistan, but not both. Attacking a hostile middleeastern country to depose a maniacle leader who has vowed to attck the US, causing massive destruction and loss of life, is either right or wrong, please choose one and stick with it.

That for/against viewpoint is a logical fallacy.

 

[schwarzchildradius]

This self-contradicting position is getting way too popular. You can either criticize the current administartion for taking preemptive action in Iraq, OR for failing to take preemptive action in Afghanistan, but not both.

On 9/11, the president alone had the authority to order fighter jets to shoot down jet liners, but according to www.cooperativeresearch.org[/URL] this was not discussed until well after the planes had hit the towers & pentagon (he was busy reading a story about a goat to 2nd graders)

 

[jimmy p]

Originally posted by schwarzchildradius
On 9/11, the president alone had the authority to order fighter jets to shoot down jet liners, but according to www.cooperativeresearch.org[/URL] this was not discussed until well after the planes had hit the towers & pentagon (he was busy reading a story about a goat to 2nd graders) [/B][/QUOTE]

are you sure the 2nd graders weren't reading the story to HIM? The problem would be that you can't just randomly shoot jet fighters down. If the pilot couldn't for any reason report a problem, then you wouldn't know which planes were on their normal route or not, until they had reported that they landed.

oh yeah...vote penis envy

 

[deltabourne]

I'm glad the polls are unbiased and fair.. too bad all the choices are wrong

 

[Nereid]

Originally posted by kat
http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/peace/jan03/msg00041.html

Thanks kat.

One interesting quote: "Halliburton's ability to maximize the value of the reservoir with our leading-edge technologies and superior service quality, in addition to our record of safe working practices and stewardship of the environment, has allowed us the opportunity to work with KNOC on this first-ever development project in Korea," said Edgar Ortiz, chief executive officer, Halliburton Energy Services Group. "Korea is now developing its oil and gas reserves, and Halliburton is proud to be assisting in this effort." (25 March, 2002)

So, as long as Kim Jong-il plays along with good ol' boy Dick Cheney ...

BTW, at 10 billion tons (>70 b barrels), their oil reserves would be the 5th largest in the world, and the largest outside the Middle East (Venzuela's may be approx the same size). Of course, other comments http://www.rmfdevelopment.com/political/NorthKoreaOil.htm suggest that the stated reserves may be somewhat exaggerated, shall we say.

 

[Dissident Dan]

WOW.

That makes the puppet masters in Washington seem moderate.

 

[David Ben-Ariel]

Originally posted by Dissident Dan
WOW.

That makes the puppet masters in Washington seem moderate.

Actually, it puts them, and every other mortal political or religious leader in their place: pawns on the cosmic chess board.

 

[Nereid]

Originally posted by David Ben-Ariel
Actually, it puts them, and every other mortal political or religious leader in their place: pawns on the cosmic chess board.

And what part do the third of humanity who live in China and India have to play in this giant game of chess?

 

[David Ben-Ariel]

Originally posted by Nereid
And what part do the third of humanity who live in China and India have to play in this giant game of chess?

http://www.thetrumpet.com/geo/na/docs/Literature.asp?view=Toc&id=30

Russia and China in Prophecy
By Andrew Locher, Ron Fraser, Stephen Flurry


The Soviet Union has dissolved. China remains isolated from the rest of the world. Yet these two great nations possesses tremendous resources and manpower. Where do these two nations fit in an ever-changing geopolitical arena?

Table of Contents
Chapter One: The Emerging Asian Superpower
Chapter Two: Russia and China in Prophecy

 

[Nereid]

... and India?

From the document which David provided a link to:
"After the Flood, God told Noah and his family to go and replenish the Earth (Gen. 8:15-18). Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham and Japheth. Each son was the beginning of a separate race. Shem was the father of the white race; Ham the father of the black; and Japheth, the yellow race.

Genesis 10:2-3 lists the sons of Japheth: 'Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.'

In his book, Compendium of World History, Dr. Herman Hoeh correctly identifies Meshech and Tubal as fathers of those who comprise greater Russia. Magog fathered the people of China and Mongolia. Gomer fathered the Cambodians, Siamese, Burmese and Indochinese. Togarmah, son of Gomer, fathered the people of Siberia and Tibet.[/color]"

When was 'the Flood'? Who mothered the Australian aborigines? David, how do you reconcile the data from the fossil record - showing humans in Africa many hundreds of thousands of years before any record of humans in east Asia - with 'the Flood' myth (which would seem to require that they be nearly contemporaneous)?

 

[David Ben-Ariel]

Originally posted by Nereid When was 'the Flood'? Who mothered the Australian aborigines? David, how do you reconcile the data from the fossil record - showing humans in Africa many hundreds of thousands of years before any record of humans in east Asia - with 'the Flood' myth (which would seem to require that they be nearly contemporaneous)? [/B]

Excellent questions! Why not present them to the authors of that article, by writing the Philadelphia Trumpet magazine @ letters@thetrumpet.com and posting their response.

I know we believe there were "humanoid" beings on Earth before the official human-beings were created in God's image, and we also know that the Earth may have been around for millions or billions of years. Genesis, when properly understood, refers to creation and a recreation - and God knows how many years were in the interval between them!

 

[Zero]

Every thread that turns into a religion discussion gets locked.