Why Do Different Methods Yield Different Solutions for Curve Intersections?

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection points of the equations x + y = 1 and x = 2(y^2). Participants are exploring different methods of solving for y and questioning the discrepancies in their results.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for y by rearranging the equations, while others question the validity of the solutions obtained. Participants discuss the implications of setting equations equal to 1 versus 0 and the conditions under which products equal to zero or one yield different results.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the correctness of the original poster's solutions and exploring the mathematical principles behind their reasoning. There is an ongoing examination of the differences in approaches without a clear consensus on the correct method.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of their algebraic manipulations and the assumptions underlying their methods. There is a focus on the importance of correctly applying mathematical principles when solving equations.

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I'm trying to find where x+y=1 meets x=2(y^2)

To solve for y I set up:
2(y^2)=1-y
2(y^2)+y=1
y(2y+1)=1
I have y=1 and 2y+1=1
for 2y+1=1, 2y=0 so y=0
y=0,1

But, I notice that my teacher did:
2(y^2)+y-1=0
(2y+1)(y-1)=0
y=-1, 1/2

Why are these 2 methods bringing about different answers? Shouldn't they be the same?
 
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Neither y=0 nor y=1 solves y*(2y+1)=1. Try to think about that a little.
 
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That is true...if I plug it in, it doesn't work...so how come if I solve for y, those are the 2 answers I get? And what's the difference between solving for it by setting it equal to 1, and setting it equal to 0?
 
Because a*b=0 means a=0 or b=0. a*b=1 does not mean a=1 or b=1. After all, (1/2)*2=1 and neither of those is equal to 1.
 
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fk378 said:
That is true...if I plug it in, it doesn't work...so how come if I solve for y, those are the 2 answers I get? All I can say is that you are solving wrong. The numbers y= 0 and y= 1
And what's the difference between solving for it by setting it equal to 1, and setting it equal to 0?
If a and b are numbers and ab= 0, then either a= 0 or b= 0-the crucial point is that 0 divided by anything (other than 0) is 0. If a is not 0, divide both sides of the equation by a and you get b= 0. If b is not 0, divide both sides of the equation by b and you get a= 0.

That is not true for 1 or any other non-zero number. If ab= 1, then it might be that a= 1/2, b= 2. Or a= 1/4, b= 4, or ... many other possibilities. That is why, when factoring to solve an equation you MUST get it equal to 0.
 

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