Why Do Electromagnetic Wave Frequencies Remain Constant Across Different Media?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electromagnetic waves as they transition between different media, particularly focusing on the concepts of frequency, wavelength, and index of refraction. Participants explore why the frequency of electromagnetic waves remains constant despite changes in medium properties.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the relationship between frequency and index of refraction, with some asserting that frequency increases with a higher index, while others challenge this notion and seek clarification on the underlying physics. There is also exploration of the differences in behavior between visible light and radio waves, particularly in terms of diffraction and wavelength.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding the frequency and wavelength of electromagnetic waves. Some participants have provided references and explanations, while others are still seeking clarity on the concepts involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the effects of changing media on wave properties, particularly concerning the assumptions about frequency and diffraction. Participants are encouraged to reference external sources for further understanding.

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Homework Statement


I have to re-write the following statement because it is either incomplete or false. When an electromagnetic waves passes from one material into another with a higher index of refraction, its frequency will increase.

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The Attempt at a Solution


It sounds perfect already. I don't see anything incomplete about it. When the index of refraction goes up, so does its frequency.


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Homework Statement


Visible light is usually seen in straight lines, while radio waves seem to be able to bend around houses and other similar sized objects. If they are both electromagnetic waves, why the apparent difference?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Does it have anything to do with light acting as both a particle and a wave?

Thanks in advance
 
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Lennox786 said:

Homework Statement


I have to re-write the following statement because it is either incomplete or false. When an electromagnetic waves passes from one material into another with a higher index of refraction, its frequency will increase.

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


It sounds perfect already. I don't see anything incomplete about it. When the index of refraction goes up, so does its frequency.
What makes you think this? Something changes when waves change media, but what? Look it up.

Homework Statement


Visible light is usually seen in straight lines, while radio waves seem to be able to bend around houses and other similar sized objects. If they are both electromagnetic waves, why the apparent difference?

Homework Equations


n/a

The Attempt at a Solution


Does it have anything to do with light acting as both a particle and a wave?
No. Compare the length of the waves. What is this "bending around obstacles" called? (Look it up!)
 
I did look up the first one, in my notes and on google. I am getting the same thing.

O i get it. Since radio waves have a larger wavelength, the diffraction (bending of a wave) will also increase. Visible light has a smaller wavelenghth, so its diffraction isn't as great and cannot bend the walls.
 
Lennox786 said:
I did look up the first one, in my notes and on google. I am getting the same thing.
Are you saying you found physics sites that said that frequency of a wave increases when it passes into a medium of higher index of refraction? I hope not! (If so, give a reference and I'll check it out.)

O i get it. Since radio waves have a larger wavelength, the diffraction (bending of a wave) will also increase. Visible light has a smaller wavelenghth, so its diffraction isn't as great and cannot bend the walls.
Exactly.
 
K i was thinking of wrong thing for first one.

If index of refraction increases, then diffraction increases, which really means that wavelength increases. Since wavelength increases, then frequency goes down?
 
Lennox786 said:
If index of refraction increases, then diffraction increases, which really means that wavelength increases.
Nope.
Since wavelength increases, then frequency goes down?
How do you figure this?

Read this: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/refr.html"
 
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ok so its unchanged.

Thanks for help
 
Frequency of EM waves

Frequency of electromagnetic waves does not change when traveling through mediums of different index of refraction.
In fact, when a wave of frequency "f" in a medium of index "n1" passes to a medium of index "n2", the frequency of the wave does not change, but it is its wavelength that changes.

f = v1/λ1 = v2/λ2
where "vi" is the speed of light in medium i and "λi" is the wavelength of the electromagnetic wave.
and
vi = c/ni where "c" is the speed of light in free space and it equals 300,000,000m/s.

So we see that the speed of light in the medium and the wavelength change in a manner that the frequency remain constant.
 

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