Why do I make math errors and how can I prevent them?

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The discussion revolves around the common issue of making mathematical errors, particularly in the context of understanding and applying mathematical laws and functions. Participants explore reasons for these errors and share strategies for improvement, focusing on algebraic manipulation and the properties of functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with mathematical laws, providing an example of an error in manipulating logarithmic and exponential functions.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the non-linearity of exponential functions could help prevent such errors.
  • Some participants propose practicing problems as a way to internalize mathematical rules and reduce mistakes.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of treating both sides of an equation as whole entities when applying functions, to avoid common errors.
  • A participant highlights the misconception that the exponential function behaves linearly, emphasizing that this is a frequent source of mistakes.
  • Several participants share their experiences with teaching methods and how they affect understanding of mathematical concepts, including the idea of "balancing equations."
  • Humor is used to illustrate differing teaching styles, with one participant recounting a metaphorical "kick" used to explain moving terms across an equation.

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Participants generally agree that making errors in math is common and that understanding the underlying principles is crucial. However, there are differing opinions on teaching methods and the effectiveness of certain explanations, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the best approaches to learning and teaching these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions of mathematical laws and the conditions under which certain properties hold, particularly regarding functions and their behavior in equations.

lo2
Well when calculating Math I sometimes make errors (we all do of course) but some of them are because I do not know the 'laws of math' (do not know what you call it in English). An examlpe.

[tex]\ln{2}=x^2+x+k \Leftrightarrow e^{\ln{2}}=e^{x^2}+e^x+e^k \Leftrightarrow 2=e^{x^2}+e^x+e^k[/tex]

But that is wrong it should be.

[tex]\ln{2}=x^2+x+k \Leftrightarrow e^{\ln{2}}=e^{x^2+x+k} \Leftrightarrow 2=e^{x^2+x+k}[/tex]

Which is how it should be.

Now my request is could anyone please help me not making those errors again which is not because of the fact that Humans do make errors but because I simply did not the 'law' well enough.
 
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are you asking for a list of such laws, or a site of reference or just ways to try and remember the laws? The above one can be remembered by remembering that the exponential is not a linear function.
 
I am requesting for something (what is it I will leave up to you) which can help me not making those errors.
 
Do a lot of problems. If you are stuck, you can post it here.
 
You're asking for something which does not exist. The only way to learn the rules is simply to use them until you get used to them.

- Warren
 
I've always been a fan of the 'what you do to one side of the equation, you have to do to the other' school of thought when it comes to these kinds of mistakes. So in this case, imagine there are parentheses around each side of the equality, before taking the exponential. So (ln2) = (x^2 + x +k). Then take the exponential of the entire expression on both sides: e^(ln2) = e^(x^2 + x +k).

Now if your problem lies in understanding why e^(x^2 + x +k) does not equal e^(x^2) + e^x + e^k, then this is simply, as stated before, a matter of the linearity of the exponential function. A function, f, is said to be linear if f(c*x + d*y) = c*f(x) + d*f(y), where c and d are coefficients. Try and come up with a simple example which shows that e^x is not a linear funtion.
 
[tex]\ln{2}=x^2+x+k \Leftrightarrow e^{\ln{2}}=e^{x^2}+e^x+e^k \Leftrightarrow 2=e^{x^2}+e^x+e^k[/tex]

I'm not sure what "laws" you mean since what you give here is, of course, not a "law".

What you are showing here is the very common "math error" of assuming that f(x+ y)= f(x)+ f(y) which is true only for the very simple function f(x)= ax, certainly not for the exponential function.

(Before you experts jump on me, I am aware that there exist very nasty, non-continuous functions that satisfy f(x+ y)= f(x)+ f(y) but I didn't think that was relevant here.)
 
It is funny how few teachers ever teach this 'balancing equations' correctly. What you are actually doing is using both sides of the equations as inputs to functions using the rule that...

if a = b then f(a) = f(b)

With that in mind you will make less mistakes because you have in mind that you are doing the operations on the whole a and the whole b.

EG x+2 = 2x
let function f be defined as f(a)=a-2x
therefore f(x+2) = f(2x) => (x+2)-2x = (2x)-2x => x+2-2x = 0

And that is what is really happening! How can you know that if a=b then f(a)=f(b)? Because if they are the same function and both inputs are the same then they have to give the same output! Otherwise the function is random and not consistent in pattern...

Notice, this can only apply if you are finding the value where a=b. Otherwise if they are not equal then you cannot assume that f(a)=f(b).
 
mtanti said:
if a = b then f(a) = f(b)

To be technical, this is only true if f is well defined.
 
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d_leet said:
To be technical, this is only true if f is well defined.
mtanti said that f was a function which covers that.

(Although I am inclined to disagree with mtanti that "few teachers ever teach this 'balancing equations' correctly." Perhaps I was lucky but all of the teachers I have ever had, going back to grade 9 algebra, emphasised that.)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Although I am inclined to disagree with mtanti that "few teachers ever teach this 'balancing equations' correctly." Perhaps I was lucky but all of the teachers I have ever had, going back to grade 9 algebra, emphasised that.

Wow, maybe it's something having to do with my country Malta then... haha, my first algebra teacher said that when you have such an equation:
a = b + c
then to make b subject, you give c a kick and it is sent flying to the other side of the equals and the kick injures it so instead of a + you have a -. lol this mislead me to changing + to - even in multiplication and division balancing for a really long time! What a stupid/lazy teacher!
 
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"Give c a kick and sent it flying"?? Couldn't you be arrested for that? No telling what injuries that poor little c might suffer. Seems to me a very violent way of doing mathematics.

There are a number of people who learn to "move" numbers or variables from one side of the equation to another (though not by "kicking" them!). In some cases those are people whom I KNOW were taught differently. I suspect most people find it less abstract to think about "moving" things- they can see the "x" starting on one side of the equation and ending up on the other- and translate what they are told into those terms.
 

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