Why do professors have to teach?

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Professors' roles and compensation vary significantly by institution and country, with teaching often being the primary responsibility at smaller colleges, while research may serve as a supplementary activity. The negotiation of teaching loads is common during hiring, influenced by institutional needs and the candidate's research capabilities. Senior professors typically have more flexibility in scheduling classes compared to junior faculty, who may have less choice. The discussion also touches on the perception of teaching as a side job for professors, emphasizing that they are compensated for attracting students and securing research funding. The conversation humorously reflects on the challenges of teaching morning classes, with some expressing a dislike for early hours, while others embrace them. Overall, the importance of teaching in higher education is underscored, questioning the feasibility of a university without classes.
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I've always wondered about this. Do professors actually get paid for doing research or teaching?

Is teaching actually a side job for them?
 
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This is highly varying from country to country, from institution to institution and relative to areas of research.

But, generally, I think that the percentage of time a professor should teach is a negotiable factor in the hiring process, dependent on the needs of the institution for instructors and expectation of the candidate's ability to generate top-notch research.
 
What if they hate mornings? Can they actually refuse to teach a morning class? My 1st yr chem professor complained about her morning everyday...I suppose not?
 
flyingpig said:
What if they hate mornings? Can they actually refuse to teach a morning class? My 1st yr chem professor complained about her morning everyday...I suppose not?

I suppose they can always reschedule the class...
 
flyingpig said:
Do professors actually get paid for doing research or teaching? Is teaching actually a side job for them?

Depends on the institution. At the small college where I teach, classroom teaching is the main job for all professors, and research is a sideline. It's an important sideline, but mainly as a way to provide research opportunities for students.

In most departments here, the department chairman (or someone delegated by him) draws up a preliminary class schedule, and then the other department members can suggest changes, trade classes or rooms, etc. In my department, everybody gets a more or less satisfactory schedule most of the time.
 
flyingpig said:
What if they hate mornings?

The answer to this is the same as in every other profession: tough ****
 
cristo said:
The answer to this is the same as in every other profession: tough ****

At my university, it seems like the more senior professors get some say in when they teach, while the junior professors get stuck with whatever is left.
 
flyingpig said:
I've always wondered about this. Do professors actually get paid for doing research or teaching?

Is teaching actually a side job for them?

They get paid for attracting students (and tuition money) and for attracting research grants. Just attending school on the same campus as a famous researcher is worth something prestige-wise, but most want some actual exposure to the more famous professors before they'll actually fork out significantly higher tuition.

(Most students would be better off going to a cheaper school that actually focuses on teaching for their bachelor's degree and then go to the school with the best professors/researchers for their graduate degrees - if the undergraduate degree itself wasn't often part of the criteria for accepted into graduate school.)
 
As always, PhDComics has some insight:
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I never taught college. What I taught we had to be ready to teach at any time, in addition to scheduled classes, and without complaint. People's lives depended on it.

I wonder if the prof who complained about her morning class ever had to factor that one in.
 
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"Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."

(I've taught students from nursery school to college level.)
 
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flyingpig said:
What if they hate mornings? Can they actually refuse to teach a morning class? My 1st yr chem professor complained about her morning everyday...I suppose not?

Who doesn't hate mornings? If I had my way, liking mornings would result in psychiatric examination before being allowed to work.

Oh and liking morning would immediately make you fail the test.
 
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Mondays are even worse, flappers.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Who doesn't hate mornings? If I had my way, liking mornings would result in psychiatric examination before being allowed to work.

Oh and liking morning would immediately make you fail the test.

I like mornings. Typically, I go to bed around 11 pm and get up around 6 or 6:30 am, even on weekends. I once taught a course that had classes that started at 8 am. (Not scheduled by me.)
 
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George Jones said:
I like mornings. Typically, I go to bed around 11 pm and get up around 6 or 6:30 am, even on weekends. I once taught a course that had classes that started at 8 am. (Not scheduled by me.)

Wow 6:00am! You are like my grandmother!
 
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Pengwuino said:
Who doesn't hate mornings? If I had my way, liking mornings would result in psychiatric examination before being allowed to work.

Oh and liking morning would immediately make you fail the test.

I love mornings!

And I love sharing the joy of mornings with others! Anyone staying in my house wakes up to the sound of my electric coffee grinder at 5:00 AM in the morning. And the neighbors wake up to the sound of my dogs growling and barking at the neighbor's dogs through the holes in our fence. Everyone knows I love mornings!

And the best things is other morning people don't mind the noise I make in the morning. And as far as all the night people go - they're too groggy in the morning to shoot anyone, anyway.
 
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I'm kind of wondering where this question came from. It would be pretty hard to have a university or college without classes and students, so why is it surprising that someone would have to teach those classes of students?
 
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As quoted from A Beautiful Mind: "Come on, you know the drill. You get these beautiful facilities and MIT gets America’s great minds of today teaching America’s great minds of tomorrow."
 
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Can u actually get fired if you don't teach? can a professor even get fired?
 

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