Why do some unexpected isotopes occur naturally?

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The discussion centers on the natural occurrence of certain isotopes, particularly Cadmium-106, despite the potential for decay processes that could occur with significant energy release. Participants explore the reasons behind the stability of these isotopes and the implications of their long half-lives.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why isotopes like Cadmium-106 can exist naturally despite the possibility of decay to Palladium-106, which seems energetically favorable.
  • One participant cites the half-life of Cadmium-106 as approximately 1020 years, suggesting that the age of the universe is insufficient for significant decay to have occurred.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the quoted half-life is a lower limit and argues that Cadmium-106 is effectively stable, noting that decay to Silver-106 is not energetically allowed and that a hypothetical decay to Palladium-106 would require a double beta decay.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of isotopes with long half-lives, with one participant mentioning that while many isotopes are theoretically unstable, their long lifetimes mean that their decay has not yet been observed.
  • A participant raises a question regarding which isotopes have been observed to undergo double electron capture, indicating an interest in specific decay processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the stability of Cadmium-106 and the implications of its long half-life. There is no consensus on the reasons for the natural occurrence of certain isotopes or the mechanisms of decay involved.

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The discussion includes references to half-lives and decay processes, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and implications of stability versus instability in isotopes.

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Why do some isotopes occur naturally even though a seemingly valid decay with non-negligible energy release ~Mev, could energetically happen? E.g. Cadmium-106 could decay to Palladium-106 but it is still NATURALLY occurring?
 
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fzero said:
According to http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/reCenter.jsp?z=48&n=58, the half-life of 106Cd is [itex]10^{20}[/itex] years. The universe itself is only [itex]10^{10}[/itex] years old, so an isotope like this would not have had time to significantly decay.

Thanks - is this because there is a difference in the orbital angular momentum of the parent and daughter nuclei? I know it HAS a really long half-life, but I don't know how to prove that to myself - what are it's features that result in this?
 
Cadmium-106 could decay to Palladium-106 but it is still NATURALLY occurring?
Cd-106 is, for all intents and purposes, stable. The quoted half-life of >1020y is only a lower limit. Decay to the next element Ag-106 is not energetically allowed, and a hypothetical decay to Pd-106 would require a double beta decay.
 
fzero said:
According to http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/reCenter.jsp?z=48&n=58, the half-life of 106Cd is [itex]10^{20}[/itex] years.

NO. The LOWER BOUND of the half-life is [itex]10^{20}[/itex] years. There is NO half-life, because there is no upper bound of half-life.
 
In theory, all those isotopes (including all with at least 42 protons) should be unstable, but their lifetimes are so long that those decays were not observed yet.

As an example, 209Bi was in this list, too, until its radioactivity was discovered (with a half-life of ~2*1019 years).
 
Which isotope is alleged to have been observed to undergo double electron capture?
 

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