Why do the photons produced by a laser have the same phase?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of phase coherence in laser light, specifically addressing why photons produced by a laser exhibit the same phase despite the presence of spontaneous emission, which introduces random phases. The scope includes theoretical explanations of laser operation and the mechanisms of spontaneous versus stimulated emission.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that spontaneous emission produces photons with random phases, raising the question of why lasers do not output a mixture of these random phases.
  • Another participant explains that the optical cavity's boundary conditions select for specific phases, allowing only certain modes to resonate and be amplified, while others are suppressed through destructive interference.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that the probability of stimulated emission is influenced by the number of photons already present in a mode, suggesting a tendency for new photons to match the phase of the most populated mode.
  • Another participant emphasizes the competition between spontaneous and stimulated emission, indicating that stimulated emission leads to an exponential increase in photons with the same phase, while spontaneous emission contributes fewer photons with random phases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mechanisms of stimulated and spontaneous emission but express differing views on the implications of spontaneous emission and the role of the optical cavity in phase selection. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which spontaneous emission impacts the overall phase coherence in laser output.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the efficiency of phase selection in the optical cavity or the dynamics of spontaneous versus stimulated emission in different laser configurations.

mrdopebunny
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Hi. This has been destroying my mind all day.

Take, for example, a semiconductor laser with no internal photons initially. By spontaneous emission, one electron falls from the conduction band to the valance band and emits a photon with the bandgap frequency and a random phase. As this photon stimulates the emission of others, they all have the same phase as the original and due to the gain from the optical cavity and the medium, a standing wave develops.

My confusion is that, since spontaneous emission never stops, another photon of that same frequency but a different random phase can be emitted. This photon can stimulate emission in the same way as the original, developing another standing wave with a different phase. Nothing in the gain medium or the optical cavity seems to be phase selective, so why wouldn't the output of a laser be a mixture of photons of random phase?
 
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Well, your initial reasoning is correct here, and there is such a thing as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_laser" , which doesn't have a coherent beam.

What you're missing is how the optical cavity works. You have reflection at both ends, so you have boundary conditions that 'select' the phase which has nodes at the ends, and thus resonate in the cavity. Which means rapid amplification for that phase, whereas all other phases quickly get washed out due to destructive interference.
 
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There is another point: The probability stimulated emission is proportional to the number of photons already in the mode. So there is a tendency for spontaneous emission to produce a photon which coincides with the mode already most populated.
 
I believe the main issue is that both spontaneous emission and stimulated emission processes need inverted population that is ready to drop from the higher state to the lower. Now these two processes compete on the same resources (they use the same gain) but with the difference that stimulated emission gives the new photon the same phase of the stimulator so the number of photons with the same phase is exponentially growing, while spontaneous emission gives it a random phase. The number of photon traveling in the cavity that were stimulated grows far beyond the number of the spontaneously emitted ones, given that we let this process enough time (that is we don't let the stimulated photons out of the cavity too fast = we control the losses).
 

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