Why Do These Mathematical Expressions Seem Unequal?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical expressions involving the addition of fractions and the manipulation of algebraic terms. Participants are examining the validity of an equation and the rules governing the addition of fractions, particularly focusing on a specific example involving the expressions (x-4)(x+1) and (x+1)(x-4).

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  • One participant questions the correctness of the equation (x-4)(x+1) + (x+1)(x-4) = (x+1)(x-4), providing a numerical example to illustrate their confusion.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify the addition of fractions, stating that a/b + c/b = (a+c)/b, using a pizza analogy to explain the concept.
  • A different participant expresses confusion about the equality of the expressions and seeks further clarification on the addition of the terms.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the addition of fractions, recognizing that the denominators do not combine but must be equal.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correctness of the original equation. There is a mix of confusion and attempts at clarification, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the rules of adding fractions and the manipulation of algebraic expressions, indicating potential gaps in understanding or assumptions about mathematical operations.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals seeking clarification on the rules of adding fractions, algebraic manipulation, or those encountering similar mathematical confusion.

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In order to see the problem here, you need to refer to following link:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/TurbineSpeed/Picture402887.jpg

I understand how they got the expression in the numerator. What I cannot figure out is how they got the denominator.

By their math, (x-4)(x+1) + (x+1)(x-4) = (x+1)(x-4)

This does not seem correct. Give a value to x such as x = 6, and:

(2)(7) + (7)(2) = 14 + 14 = 28

Now if we apply this value to the right member, we get:

(7)(2) = 14.

14 is NOT equal to 28.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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Holocene,
a/b + c/b = (a+c)/b
As an example, if you have an eighth of a pizza and have another (one-eighth sized) slice of pizza, you have eaten 2/8=1/4 of the pizza, not 2/16 = 1/8.
 
Slider,

Thank you, but how can (x-4)(x+1) + (x+1)(x-4) be equal to (x+1)(x-4)?
 
WOW! Apparently I had forgotten that when you add fractions you do NOT add the denominators together. Instead, they must simply be equal. Man, I feel stupid for being tripped up over this one.

Slider, thanks, I can't believe I forgot this simple rule.
 

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