Why do we have fast convergence?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence properties of a specific series involving an exponential decay factor and sine functions. Participants explore the implications of this fast convergence in the context of mathematical series, particularly focusing on the conditions under which the series converges rapidly and the role of the exponential term.

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  • One participant presents a series involving a negative exponential factor and queries why this leads to fast convergence, particularly for larger values of $t$ or $a^2$.
  • Another participant explains that the negative exponential function converges quickly and discusses the relationship between the convergence of a series and the behavior of its terms, noting that $a_n \to 0$ does not imply convergence of $\sum a_n$.
  • A mathematical inequality is provided to illustrate the convergence of the series, comparing it to simpler series and showing that the remainder decreases rapidly due to the exponential decay.
  • A question is raised regarding the absence of absolute value bars around the sine function in the mathematical expression, suggesting a potential oversight in the formulation.
  • A subsequent reply confirms the addition of absolute value bars to the expression, indicating a correction to the earlier post.

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Participants generally agree on the fast convergence of the series due to the exponential factor, but there are points of clarification regarding the mathematical formulation and the conditions for convergence. The discussion includes both agreement on the convergence properties and questions about specific details in the mathematical expressions.

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The discussion highlights the dependence on the behavior of the exponential term and the conditions under which the series converges rapidly. There is an acknowledgment of the need for careful mathematical notation, particularly regarding absolute values in the context of sine functions.

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Hello! (Wave)

Suppose that we have $u(x,t)= \frac{80}{\pi} \sum_{n=1,3,5, \dots}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n} e^{-\frac{n^2 \pi^2 a^2 t}{2500}} \sin{\frac{n \pi x}{50}}$.

According to my notes, the negative exponential factor at each term of the series has as a result the fast convergence of the series except for small values of $t$ or of $a^2$. So we can have exact results using usually only some of the first terms of the series.

Could you explain me the above? Why does it hold?

I thought that we have that if $\sum a_n$ converges then $a_n \to 0$ but the converse does not hold...
 
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evinda said:
Hello! (Wave)

Suppose that we have $u(x,t)= \frac{80}{\pi} \sum_{n=1,3,5, \dots}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n} e^{-\frac{n^2 \pi^2 a^2 t}{2500}} \sin{\frac{n \pi x}{50}}$.

According to my notes, the negative exponential factor at each term of the series has as a result the fast convergence of the series except for small values of $t$ or of $a^2$. So we can have exact results using usually only some of the first terms of the series.

Could you explain me the above? Why does it hold?

I thought that we have that if $\sum a_n$ converges then $a_n \to 0$ but the converse does not hold...

Hey evinda! (Smile)

The exponential function with a negative exponent is known to converge extremely fast.
And indeed, just because $a_n\to 0$, does not mean that $\sum a_n$ converges.

More to the point, we have:
$$
\left|\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac 1n e^{-n^2}\sin(nx)\right| \le \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac 1n e^{-n^2}|\sin(nx)| < \sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-n^2} < \sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-n}
= \frac{e^{-1}}{1-e^{-1}} = \frac{1}{e-1}
$$
So we can see that the series converges.We also have:
$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-n} = \sum_{n=1}^k e^{-n} + R_k
$$
where the remainder $R_k$ is:
$$R_k=\sum_{n=k+1}^k e^{-n} = \frac{e^{-(k+1)}}{1-e^{-1}}
$$
So the remainder for this upper bound is reduced by a factor of $e \approx 2.7$ with every additional term.
And since we actually have $e^{-n^2}$, the remainder is reduced faster.
 
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I like Serena said:
$$
\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac 1n e^{-n^2}\sin(nx) < \sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-n^2} < \sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-n}
= \frac{e^{-1}}{1-e^{-1}} = \frac{1}{e-1}
$$

Shouldn't there be absolute value bars around $\sin(nx)$?
 
Euge said:
Shouldn't there be absolute value bars around $\sin(nx)$?

Yep. Added.
 

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