Why Does 1/n Diverge & 1/n2 Converge? Explanation Beyond Formulas

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The discussion centers around the convergence and divergence of the series \(\sum \frac{1}{n}\) and \(\sum \frac{1}{n^2}\). Participants seek explanations that extend beyond standard definitions and formulas, exploring intuitive reasoning and mathematical tests.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests an explanation for the divergence of \(\sum \frac{1}{n}\) and the convergence of \(\sum \frac{1}{n^2}\) beyond geometric series definitions.
  • Another participant suggests that the integral test is a natural method to understand the convergence behavior of these series, questioning the original poster's familiarity with it.
  • A participant presents a mathematical argument involving the generalized harmonic series, stating that it converges if \(\alpha > 1\) and diverges for \(\alpha \leq 1\), implying a similar reasoning could apply to the series in question.
  • There is a reiteration of the integral test concept, with a participant reflecting on their understanding of convergence related to the integral of the associated function.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single explanation for the convergence and divergence of the series. Multiple approaches and reasoning methods are discussed, indicating ongoing exploration and debate.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the integral test and its application, and there are references to generalized harmonic series without fully resolving the implications for the specific series under discussion.

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Readers interested in series convergence, mathematical reasoning, and those seeking deeper understanding beyond standard definitions may find this discussion beneficial.

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Why the serie \sum\frac{1}{n} diverges and the serie \sum\frac{1}{n^{2}} converges? I'd appreciate an explanation beyond the definition of geometric series (I know that the sum of a geometric serie is given by a formula).

I've found an explanation, that involves the creation of groups in the series so each of them result 1/2 (at least), so the sum diverges. Could I apply the same operation to the sum 1/n2?

thanks
 
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These aren't geometric series so it will be hard to get an explanation from that direction. The integral test is a very natural way to understand why one converges and another doesn't; do you know what the integral test for convergence is?
 
\sum_{n=1}^{2^{(N+1)}-1}\frac{1}{n^\alpha}=\frac{1}{1^\alpha}+\frac{1}{2^\alpha}+\frac{1}{3^\alpha}+\frac{1}{4^\alpha}+\frac{1}{5^\alpha}+\frac{1}{6^\alpha}+\frac{1}{7^\alpha}+\dots<\frac{1}{1^\alpha}+\frac{1}{2^\alpha}+\frac{1}{2^\alpha}+\frac{1}{4^\alpha}+\frac{1}{4^\alpha}+\frac{1}{4^\alpha}+\frac{1}{4^\alpha}+\dots=\sum_{n=0}^{N}2^{n(1-\alpha)}

this converges if \alpha> 1. In a similar way you show that the generalized harmonic series diverges for \alpha\leq 1.
 
Office_Shredder said:
These aren't geometric series so it will be hard to get an explanation from that direction. The integral test is a very natural way to understand why one converges and another doesn't; do you know what the integral test for convergence is?

If I'm not wrong, a_{n} converges if the integral sum of the associated function f(x), \int f(x) has a finite valor. I think I've heard about that way of see it. Now I've realized that this is not a geometric serie. thanks
 
Petr Mugver said:
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this converges if \alpha> 1. In a similar way you show that the generalized harmonic series diverges for \alpha\leq 1.

Thanks for the explanation, I'll remember the alpha in the future.
 

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