Why Does a Voltmeter Show a Reading When an Iron Rod is Moved in Coil P?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of induced electromotive force (emf) in a coil setup involving two coils, P and Q, where coil P is powered and coil Q is connected to a voltmeter. The original poster explores the effects of moving an iron rod within coil P and varying the current in coil P on the voltmeter reading in coil Q.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the movement of the iron rod and the induced emf in coil Q. Participants discuss the implications of varying current in coil P and how it affects the induced emf in coil Q, particularly during periods of constant and changing current.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of electromagnetic induction, questioning the behavior of induced emf during different scenarios, and exploring the implications of linear versus sudden changes in current. There is a recognition of the complexity of the situation, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants reference Faraday’s law and Lenz’s law as foundational principles in their discussions. There is mention of a diagram that is not provided, which may be relevant to understanding the problem setup and the variations in current.

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Homework Statement



Two coils P and Q are placed close to one another. P is connected to a power supply whereas Q is only connected to a voltmeter and no supply (see attached diagram). The current in coil P is constant. An iron rod is inserted into coil P.

a) Explain why during the time that the tod is moving, there is a reading on the voltmeter connected to coil Q.

b) The current in coil P is now varied as shown in the figure ( see attached). Show the variation with time of the reading of the voltmeter connected to coil Q from time t=0 to time t=t2.

Homework Equations


Faraday’s law
Lenz’s law

The Attempt at a Solution


I don’t have any issues with part a- the iron rod changes the flux in Q which creates an induced E and an induced I.

In part b, when the current in P in constant, I know the emf induced in Q will be 0. But when the current is intially increasing why is the induced emf constant? And I don’t know what happens when there is a sudden change in the current near t1.

Thank you.
 

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Taniaz said:
In part b, when the current in P in constant, I know the emf induced in Q will be 0. But when the current is intially increasing why is the induced emf constant?
Initially, the current is increasing linearly with time. So the time derivative of the magnetic flux though the solenoid (that's the induced EMF, right?) should be constant.
 
PKM said:
Initially, the current is increasing linearly with time. So the time derivative of the magnetic flux though the solenoid (that's the induced EMF, right?) should be constant.
Thank you. What about when it spikes downwards?

Isn’t I/t still a constant so should the graph be something like a top hat function?
 
Taniaz said:
Isn’t I/t still a constant so should the graph be something like a top hat function?
No, you're missing one point. ##I/t## is still constant, but the slope is -ve. So the induced EMF drops to a negative value as soon as ##I## starts decreasing.
 
PKM said:
No, you're missing one point. ##I/t## is still constant, but the slope is -ve. So the induced EMF drops to a negative value as soon as ##I## starts decreasing.

Yes but when the emf drops to the negative value, after that wouldn’t it just stay at that value till the current in coil p becomes constant?
 
Taniaz said:
Yes but when the emf drops to the negative value, after that wouldn’t it just stay at that value till the current in coil p becomes constant?
Yes, it seems so.
What if we consider the coil P moving toward Q at a steady rate and analyze the case?
 
PKM said:
Yes, it seems so.
What if we consider the coil P moving toward Q at a steady rate and analyze the case?
Then I think I/t won’t be constant.
But as for this question it should look like a square wave right? Constant in one direction first, then spikes vertically upwards in the opposite direction and then constant till the current becomes constant?
 
Taniaz said:

Homework Statement



Two coils P and Q are placed close to one another. P is connected to a power supply whereas Q is only connected to a voltmeter and no supply (see attached diagram). The current in coil P is constant. An iron rod is inserted into coil P.

a) Explain why during the time that the tod is moving, there is a reading on the voltmeter connected to coil Q.

b) The current in coil P is now varied as shown in the figure ( see attached). Show the variation with time of the reading of the voltmeter connected to coil Q from time t=0 to time t=t2.

Homework Equations


Faraday’s law
Lenz’s law

The Attempt at a Solution


I don’t have any issues with part a- the iron rod changes the flux in Q which creates an induced E and an induced I.

In part b, when the current in P in constant, I know the emf induced in Q will be 0. But when the current is intially increasing why is the induced emf constant? And I don’t know what happens when there is a sudden change in the current near t1.

Thank you.
Please state Faraday's Law.

Is the second graph (Fig. 10.3) your attempt or is it the "correct" answer?

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SammyS said:
Please state Faraday's Law.

Is the second graph (Fig. 10.3) your attempt or is it the "correct" answer?

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I found this graph online somewhere but I don’t think it’s right.
 

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