Why Does \( a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \) in Theorem 7.2.20?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the proof of Theorem 7.2.20 from "The Basics of Abstract Algebra" by Paul E. Bland, specifically addressing the statement that if \( a = a_1 a_2 \cdots a_m = b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \) where each \( a_i \) and \( b_i \) is irreducible, then \( a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \). Participants seek clarification on the reasoning behind this divisibility claim.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a detailed explanation of why \( a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \) based on the proof of Theorem 7.2.20.
  • Another participant explains that if \( a_1 \) divides \( x = b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \), it implies there exists a \( y \in D \) such that \( a_1 y = x \).
  • A follow-up confirms that if \( a_1 (a_2 a_3 \cdots a_m) = b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \), then it logically follows that \( a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \).
  • Participants discuss the implication that \( y = a_2 a_3 \cdots a_m \) in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the logical steps leading to the conclusion that \( a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n \), but the discussion remains focused on clarifying the reasoning rather than establishing a consensus on broader implications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve any potential ambiguities regarding the definitions of divisibility or the properties of irreducible elements in the context of the theorem.

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I am reading The Basics of Abstract Algebra by Paul E. Bland ...

I am focused on Section 7.2 Euclidean, Principal Ideal, Unique Factorization Domains ... ...

I need help with the proof of Theorem 7.2.20 ... ... Theorem 7.2.20 and its proof reads as follows:https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/8280
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In the last paragraph of the above proof by Bland we read the following:

" ... ... If $$a = a_1 a_2 \ ... \ ... \ a_m = b_1 b_2 \ ... \ ... \ b_n$$ where each $$a_i$$ and $$b_i$$ is irreducible, then $$a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \ ... \ ... \ b_n$$ ... ... "
Can someone please explain exactly and in detail why/how $$a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \ ... \ ... \ b_n$$ ... ... Peter
 
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Notate $x=b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n$
What does it mean if $a_1$ divides $x$ ?
It means that there is a $y \in D$ such that $a_1y=x$
Can you tell now what is $y$ ?
 
steenis said:
Notate $x=b_1 b_2 \cdots b_n$
What does it mean if $a_1$ divides $x$ ?
It means that there is a $y \in D$ such that $a_1y=x$
Can you tell now what is $y$ ?
Thanks for the help Steenis ...

Basically you have pointed out that:

$$a_1 ( a_2 a_3 \ ... \ ... \ a_m ) = b_1 b_2 \ ... \ ... \ b_n $$

$$\Longrightarrow a_1 \mid b_1 b_2 \ ... \ ... \ b_n$$The above implies that in what you have written we have $$y = a_2 a_3 \ ... \ ... \ a_m$$ ... ...Is that correct?

Peter
 
Correct, and do you understand that therefore $a_1|b_1 \cdots b_n$ ?
 

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