Why does gravity make things spin?

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of why gravity induces spinning in celestial bodies. Participants explain that gravity causes objects to rotate due to the conservation of angular momentum, particularly during the collapse of gas clouds into stars and planets. The initial random motions of particles in these clouds lead to a net rotational direction as they coalesce. The phenomenon of spontaneous spinning in space remains partially unexplained, with references to the need for further research on angular momentum and its implications in astrophysics.

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  • #31


ok thanks dave :) oh and i was talkinga bout having more than 2 random particles should have clarified.. I'm sure it takes more than 2 particles to say create a planet ... or a solar system
 
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  • #33


Who said Space does not spin ?
 
  • #34


AndrewJL said:
Who said Space does not spin ?

Science?
 
  • #35


AndrewJL said:
Who said Space does not spin ?
Maybe you're talking about the frame-dragging effect in GR?
 
  • #36


Well, there are theories that posit a rotating universe...
 
  • #37


Chronos said:
the tiniest of imbalances [like the gravity of the nearest star] will impart a preferred direction of travel.

This and an understanding of angular momentum sum it up based on textbooks/professors I know.

Also, think about why this spinning doesn't happen as much when you throw something on Earth. In space where we're far from strong gravitational influences (like stronger pull of gravity on Earth's surface) smaller gravitational forces have a greater effect since they aren't overpowered by larger ones.

An astronaut throwing a pencil won't give it a perfectly linear momentum in the first place anyway, since there's some curvature in the movement of the arm and it's reaaally unlikely they'll throw in a perfect straight line.
 
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BTW why are people saying that we don't understand why this rotation happens??
 
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Nyxie said:
This and an understanding of angular momentum sum it up based on textbooks/professors I know.

Also, think about why this spinning doesn't happen as much when you throw something on Earth. In space where we're far from strong gravitational influences (like stronger pull of gravity on Earth's surface) smaller gravitational forces have a greater effect since they aren't overpowered by larger ones.

An astronaut throwing a pencil won't give it a perfectly linear momentum in the first place anyway, since there's some curvature in the movement of the arm and it's reaaally unlikely they'll throw in a perfect straight line.

Don't think you're really getting the idea here.

Take an arbitrary volume of space fileld with dust and gas, give the particles of dust and gas some arbitrary random motion.

As the dust and gas move under the influnece of their mutual gravity, they will fall toward each other. Their initial inertia will be preserved, so that, by the time they collect into clumps and solar systems, the clumps will have some of that spin, even while the whole system orbits.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
As the dust and gas move under the influnece of their mutual gravity, they will fall toward each other. Their initial inertia will be preserved, so that, by the time they collect into clumps and solar systems, the clumps will have some of that spin, even while the whole system orbits.

OK, that explains things. But what about the astronaut and the pencil? Its inertia after being released/thrown is primarily determined by how it's thrown, right? so what else is it determined by? :confused:
 
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Nyxie said:
OK, that explains things. But what about the astronaut and the pencil? Its inertia after being released/thrown is primarily determined by how it's thrown, right? so what else is it determined by? :confused:

Well, yes. It's just that the pencil scenario doesn't really say much about why heavenly bodies spin.
 

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