Why Does My Calculation of Ro Result in Zero for a Thermistor?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the resistance constant, Ro, for a thermistor based on its temperature-dependent resistance equation. Participants are analyzing the relationship between the gradient derived from a graph and the resulting value of Ro.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the gradient from the graph and its implications for determining Ro. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of the variables in the equation and whether the values used in calculations are appropriate.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance and clarifications on the calculation process. There is an acknowledgment of potential discrepancies in the gradient values used, and participants are exploring the implications of these differences on the final result for Ro.

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Participants are considering the significance of significant figures in their calculations and the importance of using points that lie on the best fit line for determining the gradient accurately.

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The resistance,R, of a thermistor varies with absolute temperature according to the following equation:

R= R0 ek/T


I was asked to find the constant k using the graph.

I put the equation given in the form

ln R= k/t + lnR0

k would be the gradient. So I found the gradient from the graph and I got 2968.80

then I was asked to find Ro

so I used a point off the graph and the gradient

point (2.88,4.3)

4.3 = lnRo + (2968.80/2.88)

=> lnRo = -1.031 x 106

then I took anti logs and got Ro = 0 . Which i think is wrong...

Guidance appreciated.
 
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lionely said:
point (2.88,4.3)

Should the 2.88 be multiplied by 10 to some power?

4.3 = lnRo + (2968.80/2.88)

Do you really want to divide here?
 
Oh yeah the 2.88 should be 2.88 x 10^-3

and yeah wouldn't I divide? Isn't it k/T?
 
lionely said:
and yeah wouldn't I divide? Isn't it k/T?

k/T says to divide by T. But you're graphing 1/T, not T.
 
oh I see thank you.
 
I got Ro to be 0.014
 
That looks ok. But, I find the graph has a slope (gradient) closer to 2850. That would change the result for Ro somewhat.
 
Oh what did you use for your values to find the gradient? I used (3.52*10^-3 , 6.2)

(2.88 * 10^-3, 4.3)
 
When finding the gradient, it's best to pick two points on the line rather than picking two data points. The data points generally don't lie directly on the best fit line. Also, it's best to pick two points fairly far apart.

I picked the two points shown in the attached figure.
 

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ohh okay thank you
 
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Also, note that you cannot expect to get a gradient more precise than 3 significant figures for this graph.
 

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