Why Does Salt Spray Out of Water in a Shaker Experiment?

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The discussion centers around an experiment involving the dissolution of salt in water using a shaker, specifically addressing the phenomenon of salt appearing above the water level and on the walls of the glass. The scope includes experimental observations and potential explanations related to saturation and evaporation processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes observing salt spreading above the water level and outside the glass after shaking a saturated salt solution.
  • Another participant suggests that the phenomenon could be due to the solution becoming supersaturated as a result of vibration or agitation.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that evaporation of the saturated solution could lead to crystal growth on the surface, particularly when the solution is not mixed.
  • One participant clarifies that the salt appears on the inner walls of the glass, suggesting that surface tension allows the solution to climb the walls, leading to faster drying and salt deposition.
  • Another participant notes that the salt appears several centimeters above the surface, likening the appearance to liquid helium crawling up the walls.
  • Additional details are provided about the experimental conditions, including the use of a shaker and the time required to observe the salt on the outer walls of the glass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind the salt's appearance above the water level, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation for the observed phenomenon.

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Participants mention factors such as surface tension, evaporation, and supersaturation, but the discussion does not resolve the specific conditions or assumptions that may influence these processes.

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I have done a small experiment I dissolved salt into normal tap water using a shaker...

I put as much salt as the specific quantity of water could dissolve no more no less...

I left the cup there for a while and after some time I saw that salt was spreading ABOVE the water level and OUTSIDE of the glass...

how could this be possible?

EDIT: If you are not sure either forward this to a physics guy maybe he knows something too.. :P
 
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I think this happened because a super saturated solution so any vibration or any touch percipient the amount of solution that got dissolved.
 
Not sure what you mean. If the solution is saturated and it starts to evaporate (it does it all the time) there is nothing strange in crystals growing on the surface, especially when the solution is not mixed. After all it is the surface where the solution becomes supersaturated.
 
I am talking about a saturated mixture.. I am talking about salt appearing NOT >ON< the surface.. but ABOVE it on the inside glass walls (of the cup) and eventually on the outside aswell... its like small salt particles defining gravity or like bacteria spreading but in a much faster rate :P
 
Just try and do it yourself using a mixer or a shaker or whatever starurate the water with salt pu it on a glass cup and leave it there for some hours its cheap and easy no special safety measurments or gear are nessecary
 
I don't have to, I know the process - it just wasn't clear to me what you were referring to.

Solution goes up the walls thanks to the surface tension. Once it is on the wall, it has a large surface/volume ratio, so it dries much faster than in the bulk of the solution. When it dries, it leaves solid salt on the wall. Presence on the solid salt on the wall above the solution means solution is wicked up even faster than in the clean wall, and dries easily on the already existing salt surface.
 
If I understood your description right then this should create a ring or a belt of salt just above the surface of the solution..

I am talking about salt signs a few CM higher than the surface (On the inner walls of the glass) and on the OUTER walls of the glass its like it crawls up in streams similary to liquid helium
 
Note: I used a shaker and shaked the mixture in a very intense way for a few minutes, also the signs may start to show up within few hours but to completely see the salt on the outside of the glasswalls you have to wait 1-3 days

+ (I don't know if that matters) my mixture had filled the 3.5/4 of the glass I used
 

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