Why does the half of the absolute value of a matrix formed with its coordinates give

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The discussion centers around the relationship between the absolute value of a matrix formed with coordinates and the area of a triangle, specifically questioning how this relates to Heron's formula and the determinant of the matrix.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why half the absolute value of a matrix formed with coordinates gives the area of a triangle, expressing confusion regarding its similarity to Heron's formula.
  • Another participant clarifies that the term "determinant" is relevant to the discussion.
  • A subsequent participant seeks further explanation on the connection between the determinant and the area of a triangle.
  • Another participant explains that half the area of a parallelogram corresponds to the area of a triangle and introduces a formula for the volume of a parallelepiped spanned by linearly independent vectors, relating it to the determinant and the area of the parallelogram formed by two vectors.

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The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on the connections between the concepts discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the properties of determinants and their geometric interpretations are not fully explored, and the relationship to Heron's formula remains unresolved.

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Why does the half of the absolute value of a matrix formed with its coordinates give the area of a triangle?


I don't see any similarity between that and the heron's formula.
 
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You mean determinant.
 


Yeah, why is that?
 


The reason is because half the area of a parallelogram is the area of a triangle. Say you have k linearly independent vectors, the volume of the parallelepiped they span is given by the formula:V(x_1,...,x_k)= \sqrt{det(X^{tr}X)}. This formula is easiest to understand in 3 dimensions. Say you have two vectors a and b which are elements of \mathbb{R}^3 then the volume formula says that V(a,b)^2=det\begin{bmatrix}<br /> \|a\|^2 &amp; \langle a,b \rangle \\<br /> \langle b,a \rangle &amp; \|b\|^2 \\<br /> \end{bmatrix} = \|a\|^2\|b\|^2-\langle a,b \rangle^2 = \|a\|^2\|b\|^2(1-\cos^2(\theta)) = \|a\|^2\|b\|^2\sin^2(\theta) which is just the area of the parallelogram spanned by a and b. This is the well known formula that magnitude of the cross product of the two vectors is the area of the parallelogram spanned by the two vectors.
 

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