Why Does the Limit of x*sin(1/x) as x Approaches Infinity Equal 1?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression \( \lim_{x \to +\infty} x \sin(1/x) \). Participants explore various methods and reasoning related to limits in calculus, particularly focusing on the behavior of the sine function as its argument approaches zero.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to reason intuitively about the limit, suggesting that since \( \sin(0) = 0 \), the limit should also be zero. Others question this reasoning, noting that the product of \( x \) (approaching infinity) and \( \sin(1/x) \) (approaching zero) does not straightforwardly yield zero.
  • One participant suggests applying l'Hospital's rule to transform the limit into a form suitable for differentiation.
  • Another participant raises the possibility of using the known limit \( \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin(x)}{x} = 1 \) as a foundational concept for solving the problem.
  • There is a suggestion to use the Squeeze Theorem to demonstrate the limit without relying on l'Hospital's rule.
  • A participant discusses the approximation of \( \sin(1/x) \) for small values, indicating that this could lead to a clearer understanding of the limit's behavior.

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The discussion is active, with various methods being proposed and explored. Participants are engaging with each other's ideas, questioning assumptions, and suggesting alternative approaches. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but several productive lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the foundational limits and theorems that could aid in solving the problem, indicating a potential gap in their current coursework. The discussion reflects a mix of intuitive reasoning and formal mathematical approaches, highlighting the complexity of limits involving trigonometric functions.

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Hello,

\[<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{x \to + \infty } x\sin ({\textstyle{1 \over x}})<br /> \]<br />

In my textbook they show a way to do this limit using variable substitution. I understand how they did it,

however, before I saw what they did, I tryed to work it out intuitively... as x goes to infinity, 1/x goes to 0... since sin(0) = 0, then the limit must be equal to 0

the correct answer is 1, but I don't understand why the intuitive method fails. can somebody help me out?

thank you, sorry for bad english
 
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fishingspree2 said:
Hello,

\[<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{x \to + \infty } x\sin ({\textstyle{1 \over x}})<br /> \]<br />

In my textbook they show a way to do this limit using variable substitution. I understand how they did it,

however, before I saw what they did, I tryed to work it out intuitively... as x goes to infinity, 1/x goes to 0... since sin(0) = 0, then the limit must be equal to 0
"Intuitively" sin(1/x) goes to 0. It does not follow that x sin(1/x) goes to 0 because x is going to infinity. You can't say "\infty*0= 0".

the correct answer is 1, but I don't understand why the intuitive method fails. can somebody help me out?

thank you, sorry for bad english
Your English is excellent.
 
Apply the La'Hospital rule

for that first of all convert the equation to form such that after applying limit directly we get 0/0 or infinity/infinity form. Then differentiate both the numerator and the denomenator and then apply the limit thus

f(x) = xsin(1/x) convert to f(x)/g(x) form i.e.
f(x)/g(x) = sin(1/x)/1/x which is now in the form of 0/0 ,then according to La'Hospital rule
f(x)/g(x) = f'(x)/g'(x) thus
f'(x)/g'(x) = [-1/x2cos(1/x)]/-1/x2

this gives

f'(x)/g'(x) = cos(1/x) now apply the limit to this derivative
which gives cos(1/infinity) = cos(0) = 1 which is the answer
 
Sorry to bump such an old thread, but is there a way to show that the function x*sin(1/x) tends to 1 as x goes to infinity without using l'Hospital's rule?
 
Do you know the formula

\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}{\frac{\sin(x)}{x}}=1

if you don't know it, then I don't think you can do the question...
 
I remember it from high school, but we haven't proven it in class at the university. We have done the limit of this function as x approaches 0, however, and with that one I don't have a problem. Is there perhaps a way you'd be able to squeeze xsin(1/x) between two functions that converge to 1 as x approaches plus infinity?
 
You could probably prove it with the following inequality

|\sin(1/x)|\leq 1/|x|\leq |\tan(1/x)|

The proof of this is nontrivial... You can see it in the following great video:
 
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squuezing theorem

using squuezing theorem

limx→∞ tan-1(x)
x

solve.
 
fishingspree2 said:
Hello,

\[<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{x \to + \infty } x\sin ({\textstyle{1 \over x}})<br /> \]<br />

In my textbook they show a way to do this limit using variable substitution. I understand how they did it,

however, before I saw what they did, I tryed to work it out intuitively... as x goes to infinity, 1/x goes to 0... since sin(0) = 0, then the limit must be equal to 0

the correct answer is 1, but I don't understand why the intuitive method fails. can somebody help me out?

thank you, sorry for bad english

For small |y|, \sin y = y + O(|y|^3), so for large x, \sin(1/x) = 1/x + O(1/x^3). That implies x \sin(1/x) = 1 + O(1/x^2) \rightarrow 1 as x \rightarrow \infty.

RGV
 

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