Why Doesn't a Satellite's Radial Velocity Increase as It Revolves?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a satellite in orbit, specifically addressing why its radial velocity does not increase as it revolves around the Earth. Participants explore concepts related to gravitational forces, centripetal acceleration, and the nature of free fall in the context of orbital mechanics.

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  • Participants question the nature of a satellite's motion, particularly why it does not accelerate toward the Earth despite the absence of air resistance. Some discuss the role of centripetal acceleration in maintaining a constant distance from the Earth while others challenge the terminology used to describe the satellite's motion as "falling."

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the satellite's motion being explored. Some participants provide insights into the mechanics of circular orbits and centripetal forces, while others express skepticism about the language used to describe free fall in this context.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the definitions and implications of terms like "falling" and "constant rate," as well as the assumptions underlying the discussion of orbital motion versus free fall.

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Why doesn't a satellite's radial velocity (falling toward the Earth's center of gravity) increase as it it revolving --- I understand why its tangential speed stays the same but what is stopping the satellite from accelerating in its fall -- there is no air resistance up there. In other words, why does it fall at a constant speed and not accelerate by the force of gravity. :confused: thanks
 
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john fairbanks said:
Why doesn't a satellite's radial velocity (falling toward the Earth's center of gravity) increase as it it revolving --- I understand why its tangential speed stays the same but what is stopping the satellite from accelerating in its fall -- there is no air resistance up there. In other words, why does it fall at a constant speed and not accelerate by the force of gravity. :confused: thanks
It is accelerating toward the center of its motion all the time. It is called centripetal acceleration. It is the acceleration toward the center of its orbit that casues the direction of its veloctiy to constantly be changing. Some would say it is actually falling all the time, but the path of its fall never intersects the Earth and in fact keeps it at a constant distance from the Earth as it falls past the edge of the earth.
 
The attractive force is perpendicular to its motion. This means that only the direction of its motion is changed (to change its speed there need to be a force component in the direction of its motion, which is not the case if the sattelite is in a circular orbit). For objects in other orbits we do find that the radial velocity component changes.
 
but isn't it wrong to say the object (satellite) is falling at a constant rate, because the rate would increase the longer it falls... the speed increases in a free fall -- especially with no air resistance -- so all this language about an object free falling around the Earth is wrong I think.
 
john fairbanks said:
but isn't it wrong to say the object (satellite) is falling at a constant rate, because the rate would increase the longer it falls... the speed increases in a free fall -- especially with no air resistance -- so all this language about an object free falling around the Earth is wrong I think.
I don't particularly like the notion of saying a satellite in orbit is "falling", but suppose you could fire a cannon ball over a parabolic shaped mountain on a path that keeps the ball a few cm off the ground the whole time. Is the ball "falling" when it comes down the other side of the mountain? It's just a matter of how you want to describe the motion. The impoortant thing is to recognize that the ball and the satellite are both accelerating the whole time.
 

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