Why don't acids react with neutral salts in solution?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why acids do not react with neutral salts in solution. Participants explore concepts related to neutralization, ionic dissociation, and the conditions under which reactions may or may not occur, including the role of strong and weak acids and bases.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the lack of reaction between acids and neutral salts, questioning why ions do not exchange in solution.
  • Another participant explains that mixing solutions of HCl and Na2SO4 results in a mixture of ions without any reaction, emphasizing that this is similar to mixing NaCl and H2SO4.
  • A participant notes that the reaction mentioned in a book requires concentrated sulfuric acid and solid NaCl, highlighting the importance of reaction conditions.
  • Some participants suggest that most salts of strong acids and strong bases behave similarly when mixed with strong acids, while noting that weak acids and bases complicate the situation due to acid-base equilibrium.
  • One participant introduces the idea that some acids can react with neutral salts in cases that do not involve the exchange of H+ ions, providing an example of nitric acid reacting with potassium iodide.
  • Clarification is sought regarding whether the discussion pertains to salts or solutions of salts, with confirmation that the focus is on solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that most salts of strong acids and strong bases do not react with strong acids in solution, but there are competing views regarding the behavior of weak acids and bases, as well as specific cases where reactions can occur.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of reaction conditions, such as concentration and physical state (solid vs. solution), which may affect whether a reaction occurs. The discussion also touches on the complexity introduced by weak acids and bases, indicating that assumptions about reactivity may not hold universally.

Vatsal Goyal
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Hi
I am new to the concept of neutralization.
My teacher told me that acids do not react with neutral salts.
I want to know why not. If both are dissolved in water and both completely dissociate, why can't the ions of acid and salt exchange and perform a double displacement reaction. Moreover I have seen a reaction in one of my books - NaCl + H2SO4 produces HCl and Na2SO4
 
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Do you know what the net ionic reaction is? What are spectator ions? Have you learned what the chemical equilibrium is? It is much easier to understand what is going on in these terms.

In short: when you mix solutions of HCl and Na2SO4 all you get is a mixture of ions, everything is still dissociated and no reaction takes place. Such a solution doesn't differ from the solution prepared by mixing NaCl and H2SO4.

Reaction you have seen in your book requires concentrated sulfuric acid and solid NaCl - that's quite a different situation. Besides, the most important reason why it happens is that the HCl is gaseous and volatile and can leave the reaction mixture. When you add concentrated HCl to Na2SO4 basically nothing happens.
 
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Thank you for clearing my doubt.
Borek said:
In short: when you mix solutions of HCl and Na2SO4 all you get is a mixture of ions, everything is still dissociated and no reaction takes place. Such a solution doesn't differ from the solution prepared by mixing NaCl and H2SO4
Just one more thing.
What is happening in the solution when an acid reacts with a basic salt?
 
Borek said:
In short: when you mix solutions of HCl and Na2SO4 all you get is a mixture of ions, everything is still dissociated and no reaction takes place. Such a solution doesn't differ from the solution prepared by mixing NaCl and H2SO4.
Can we say that MOST acid and neutral salt reactions would have a similar situation?
 
To be precise: most salts of strong acids and strong bases will behave this way when mixed with strong acids.

When there are weak acids/bases involved things become more complicated, that's where the acid base equilibrium comes into play.
 
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Borek said:
To be precise: most salts of strong acids and strong bases will behave this way when mixed with strong acids.

When there are weak acids/bases involved things become more complicated, that's where the acid base equilibrium comes into play.
Okay got it. Thank you so much!
 
Some acids can react with some neutral salts, but then the reaction is not about exchange of ##H^+## ions. For example, mix nitric acid with potassium iodide (a neutral salt), and you get elemental iodine (##I_2##) and nitrogen oxides or ##NO_{2}^{-}## ions or something like that. In that case it's an oxidation-reduction reaction taking place.
 
Which is why I wrote

Borek said:
most salts of strong acids and strong bases

I didn't want to muddy the watter with unnecessary details.
 
Vatsal Goyal said:
My teacher told me that acids do not react with neutral salts.

Just to make sure that we don't talk at cross-purposes: Did he speak about salts or solutions of salts? Most of the posts are about solutions.
 
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DrStupid said:
Just to make sure that we don't talk at cross-purposes: Did he speak about salts or solutions of salts? Most of the posts are about solutions.
yes, i meant solution only. Sorry for not mentioning. :)
 

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