Why Don't I Pick Up Paper in Public Toilets?

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The discussion centers around the arrest of Senator Larry Craig for disorderly conduct in a public restroom, where he allegedly engaged in suggestive foot tapping and hand gestures to solicit sex from an undercover officer. Participants express skepticism about the legality of such signals, questioning whether they constitute a crime without explicit verbal solicitation or sexual acts taking place. The conversation highlights Craig's hypocrisy, given his previous moral stances against homosexuality, and critiques the police's approach to enforcing laws in public restrooms. The thread also touches on the broader implications of such arrests, including the waste of taxpayer resources and the societal pressures surrounding sexual orientation. Ultimately, Craig's resignation is noted, along with the potential political fallout from his actions and the public's reaction to the scandal.
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And Craig has announced his resignation effective at the end of the month.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070901/ap_on_go_co/craig_arrest
BOISE, Idaho - Idaho Sen. Larry Craig resigned Saturday over a men's room sex sting, bowing to pressure from fellow Republicans worried about a scandal dimming their election prospects.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/01/craig.arrest/index.html
 
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drankin said:
I agree. He's a freak. If someone harassed me while I was in the can, I'd be a bit upset. Certainly should be a criminal offense of some kind.

How was it harrassment? The cop had to have been playing along, giving the impression the advances were welcomed. Let's put it this way...you're in a bathroom stall, and if you haven't noticed anything before then and were coincidentally toe-tapping right along with the guy next to you, then the guy next to you is suddenly bumping your foot with his foot (you'd still have to have your foot pretty close to the divider too for that to even work)...what would you do? You'd move your foot away. He'd know you weren't interested or didn't know what was going on, and game over. If your feet touch and you don't move away, that signals acceptance of that contact. Let's not forget that it was also probably pretty apparent from a glance at ankles that the cop sitting in the stall didn't have his pants down either, so it was a good bet that was the person to try to initiate contact with.

Like I said above, if he was engaging in the sex act itself in the mens' room, or soliciting a paid prostitute and money exchanged hands, I would understand the illegality of it, but to arrest him because of some vague signals that would mean nothing to the average passer-by?

The other thing that struck me amidst all the news about this story is...why are we wasting taxpayer money to have cops sitting in a mens' room all day trying to catch men who are just desperate for sex? Having a minimum wage employee as a bathroom attendant would be just as effective at deterring anyone from lingering, or just have the janitor clean that restroom more frequently to have more of a presence that would make it unsuitable for lingering.

The only fitting irony is that this is the party that is continuously trying to pass the legislation that forces people to stay in the closet and seek to hook-up in such clandestine ways.
 
  • #34
Moonbear said:
The other thing that struck me amidst all the news about this story is...why are we wasting taxpayer money to have cops sitting in a mens' room all day trying to catch men who are just desperate for sex?
But it's gay sex! Surely, every penny we can pour into defending ourselves from it is worth it. :rolleyes:
 
  • #35
Astronuc said:
And Craig has announced his resignation effective at the end of the month.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070901/ap_on_go_co/craig_arrest


http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/01/craig.arrest/index.html

Wait! He's not going away quite so fast: Idaho Republican may fight to keep Senate seat, reverse guilty plea.

His lawyer has a point about non-job related misdemeanors. I think he overlooks one point.

A Congressman personally opposed to homosexuality could support efforts for gay marriages, but a gay Congressman can't support anti-gay legislation. It would be as hard as a Congressman getting an abortion while leading the effort to ban abortion. One direction is being fair-minded and open to other's beliefs. The other direction is hypocrisy. It's an argument that's only effective in one direction.

That might still be a decision better left to voters come election time. It might turn out to be a low priority item among voters.
 
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  • #36
BobG said:
Wait! He's not going away quite so fast.
The Democratic party promised to contribute to his campaign if he wouldn't quit.
 

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