Why globular clusters don't collapse.

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The discussion centers on the characteristics of globular clusters, specifically addressing a claim made by an AI chatbot, Bard, that they are both spherical and rapidly spinning. Participants clarify that globular clusters are not rigid and do not rotate like solid bodies; instead, they are pressure-supported systems where individual star velocities are random. The conversation highlights various factors influencing globular clusters, including gravitational balance, stellar velocity dispersion, and the presence of dark matter. Additionally, it emphasizes that stars within these clusters repel each other while in random motion, allowing for a dense population of stars. The thread also underscores the forum's policy against using AI-generated text for technical discussions, leading to a warning about the inappropriateness of such sources in scientific contexts. The thread was subsequently locked due to violations of this rule.
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I asked Bard that question and it responded (among other things) that a) globular clusters are spherical and b) that they are spinning rapidly. Aren't those two things contradictory, as in they should be flattened by centrifugal forces?
 
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If Bard is some sort ofg AI Chatbot, don't believe it.

Globular clusters are not rigid, so they do not rotate like rigid objects. Further, they are pressure supported, which means that the individual stars rotation parameters are fairly random, unlike spirals.
 
openai gave a lot more considerations: (bound together by their mutual gravitational attraction.) Gravitational balance, Stellar Velocity Dispersion, mass segregation, tidal effects, a broad distribution of kinetic energies within the cluster, higher energy orbits, Stellar Collisions and re-balancing, mass loss and gravity reduction, dark matter gravitational attraction, high mass-to-light ratio, yet low contamination levels of gas, dust prevent mass clouds that promote collapse. May contain intermediate black holes.

Like rain drops with "like charges", stars repel each other
- while in random kinetic motion
- to contain 10k to 10m stars in a cluster from 3.2 ly across or 100 ly across and up.
- 150m clusters in Milky Way each very dense. Living inside a Globular Cluster
- from Fraser Cain: Publisher Universe Today ...
 
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Jordi Heguilor said:
I asked Bard that question and it responded (among other things) that a) globular clusters are spherical and b) that they are spinning rapidly. Aren't those two things contradictory, as in they should be flattened by centrifugal forces?
Welcome to PF, Jordi. :smile:

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