Why is an Attitude Indicator not Built Like a Ball Compass?

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The discussion revolves around the design and functionality of attitude indicators in aircraft, comparing them to ball compasses. Participants explore the reasons for the complexity of attitude indicators, particularly in relation to their gyroscopic systems and the effects of aircraft maneuvers on their operation.

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  • One participant initially compares attitude indicators to ball compasses, questioning why a simpler design is not used.
  • Another participant explains that centripetal forces during maneuvers would mislead pilots if a bottom-heavy sphere were used, as its weight vector would not align with true vertical.
  • A participant notes that in a banking turn, the concept of "down" changes, further complicating the use of a simple sphere.
  • Different types of attitude indicators are described, including basic models that use a single gyro and more advanced units that can display a wider range of motion.
  • Advanced attitude indicators are mentioned as being driven by navigation computers rather than gyroscopic systems, highlighting a shift in technology over time.

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Participants generally agree on the complexity of attitude indicators compared to ball compasses, but there are varying opinions on the specifics of their design and functionality, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to attitude indication.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific aircraft models and the varying accuracy and reliability of different types of attitude indicators under certain conditions.

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Hi.
I used to think that the attitude indicators (artificial horizons) in airplanes were just bottom-heavy spheres swimming in a liquid in a transparent shell, like a ball compass:
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But apparently they use quite a complicated gyroscopic system. Why?
 
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Right. Of course.

In a banking turn, "down" is no longer down.
 
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Bit late to the party, but there’s a couple different types of attitude indicators you might cross paths with.

The most basic one, such as is found in Cessna 172s and other general aviation airplanes, uses a single gyro to simply display the local horizon within a limited pitch and bank angle range. They are typically powered by a vacuum pump on the engine or a venturi on the exterior of the airplane on particularly old models. They’re simple, inexpensive, and reasonably accurate for normal flight, but can be damaged if you perform spin training while they’re operating. Needless to say, flight school mechanics get quite grumpy when an instructor does not warn/inform the shop that spin training will be taking place. Typical the gyro vacuum line will just be disconnected and an inline filter installed to protect the vacuum pump, and the system tagged “INOP” and logged as such until after spin training and the system is restored.

More advanced units will still have only one gyro, but will be electric and have much more range of motion, allowing for a complete 360° roll and 180° pitch display. These are typically used as backup units on modern jets, although standalone digital units are increasingly widespread.

The most advanced units, which display pitch, yaw, and roll information alongside a compass bearing, are, to my knowledge, not gyroscopic in nature and are instead driven by the aircraft’s navigation computer. These were quite common from the 1960s until the advent of the “glass cockpit”, but have largely been phased out of service due to the complexity of the mechanisms used and the versatility of primary flight displays and multi-function displays that make up a “glass cockpit”.
 
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