Why is CO2 liquid less dense than CO2 solid

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The discussion centers around the density differences between liquid and solid carbon dioxide (CO2), exploring why CO2 behaves differently from substances like water, which is denser in its liquid form. Participants delve into theoretical understandings and structural comparisons between solid and liquid states.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant compares the structural differences between water and CO2, suggesting that the arrangement of molecules in solid CO2 may not lead to increased density as seen in water.
  • Another participant notes that water is an exception to the general rule that solids are denser than liquids, implying that CO2's behavior may align with typical expectations.
  • A third post provides examples of other substances that are less dense in solid form compared to liquid, but questions the validity of some claims regarding these substances.
  • One participant expresses a desire for a deeper understanding of the underlying reasons for the density differences rather than just statistical comparisons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons behind the density differences, with some focusing on structural explanations and others emphasizing general trends in material properties.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about density comparisons may depend on specific conditions or definitions, and the discussion acknowledges that water's behavior can vary based on crystal formation.

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I can sort of understand why water is denser than ice, but for CO2 I cannot understand why it is the other way around. Here is my best shot at understanding it: I imagine H2O's solid structure as a hexagon due to the hydrogen bonds, where each point represents one atom. When these bonds are broken the six line segments separate from each other and now the liquid is just a compilation of these six line segments which is more dense. I imagine a CO2 solid as a set of squares fixed together. When it turns into a solid those squares remain in tact thus the substance does not become more dense.

Does this sound right?
 
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As a practical matter, water is the exception. Almost all substances are denser as solids in comparison to liquids.
 
From: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_subs...a_solid_state_than_they_are_in_a_liquid_state


In addition to water, for which the solid form (ice) is less dense than the liquid form, the element Gallium is also less dense in the liquid state. Gallium can be solid at room temperature but will melt in the hand.
== Less Dense in Solid Form ==

confirmed as solid less dense than liquid:


gallium - 5.91 (solid) vs 6.095 (liquid)
bismuth - 9.78 (solid) vs 10.05 (liquid)
germanium - 5.323 (solid) vs 5.60 (liquid)
silicon - 2.3290 (solid) vs 2.57 (liquid)
water - 0.917 (solid) vs 0.998 (liquid)

claimed but probably false:


acetic acid - 1.266 (solid) vs 1.049 (liquid)
antimony - 6.697 (solid) vs 6.53 (liquid) (this "error" is repeated in many places, inc wikipedia)
Water is not always less dense in solid form. Depending on how the water crystals are formed, it may actually be more dense. Examples include HDA and VHDA.



Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_subs...than_they_are_in_a_liquid_state#ixzz1BFSglL6f
 
I'm not worried about the statistics of density, I want to know why.
 

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