Why is electric potential energy U defined negative in this example?

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The discussion revolves around the definition of electric potential energy in the context of the Bohr model of the hydrogen atom, specifically focusing on the equation U = -k e^2 / r. Participants are exploring the implications of the negative sign in this equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster questions the rationale behind the negative sign in the potential energy equation, wondering why it is not simply positive. Other participants suggest evaluating the expression at different radii to understand the effect of the sign.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the nature of the force and its implications on potential energy. There is a recognition of the analogy to gravitational potential energy, and the discussion appears to be productive with participants sharing insights.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the potential energy is defined as zero at an infinite distance, which is a key assumption in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


From Young and Freedman's book University Physics, ch 23, problem 23.54:
In the Bohr model of the hydrogen atom, a single electron revolves around a single proton in a circle of radius r. Assume the proton remains at rest. ++ (the rest is irrelevant to my question).

Homework Equations


In the solution of this problem, U is defined as
Code:
U = -k e[SUP]^2[/SUP] / r
.

The Attempt at a Solution


I've been staring at this equation for a long time. I'm probably just too tired. But why a minus in front of the equation? Why not just
Code:
U = k e[SUP]^2[/SUP] / r
?

I'm feeling stupid right now! ;)

Thank you in advance:)
 
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The force is attractive--it requires work to move the electron away from the proton, thus the potential energy increases as r increases. Evaluate each expression at a few radii and see how the minus sign changes things.

(Compare a similar expression for gravitational potential energy.)
 
Thank you very much for a fast and clear explanation! All confusion is gone:)
 
Note that U = 0 at r = ∞.
 
Right right, so this electric potential energy would be analogous to a topographical "hole"... (?)
 
Yup, a potential well is the common analogy to such systems (gravitational etc.)
 

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