Why is it right that the irrotational flow must have the velocity potential?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between irrotational flow and velocity potential, specifically referencing the Helmholtz theorem. It establishes that if a flow vector field F is irrotational, then it can be expressed as the gradient of a scalar potential φ, denoted as F = ∇φ. The conversation also addresses the implications of a non-zero curl, confirming that if the curl of a flow is not zero, then a potential function does not exist, as demonstrated by the equation ∇ x F = ∇ x ∇φ = 0.

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When I am studying the ratation of the fluid, I found one sentence: "The irrotational flow must have the velocity potential." Why? Can someone tell me the derivation of this equation?
 
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Hi Chuck88! :smile:
Chuck88 said:
When I am studying the ratation of the fluid, I found one sentence: "The irrotational flow must have the velocity potential." Why? Can someone tell me the derivation of this equation?

It's the Helmholtz theorem, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_decomposition#Statement_of_the_theorem

If F is irrotational, and if φ is defined as shown there, you can check that φ = F :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Chuck88! :smile:


It's the Helmholtz theorem, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_decomposition#Statement_of_the_theorem

If F is irrotational, and if φ is defined as shown there, you can check that φ = F :wink:

Thanks for your reply and from the materials you provided, I have known some of the knowledge I did not know before. Another question is that suppose I have alreadly got the value of a curl, which is not equal to zero, how can I prove reversely that the potential does not exist?
 
Hi Chuck88! :smile:
Chuck88 said:
… suppose I have alreadly got the value of a curl, which is not equal to zero, how can I prove reversely that the potential does not exist?

Because curl grad = 0.

So if the flow F has a potential φ,

then F = φ.

so x F = x φ = 0. :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Chuck88! :smile:


Because curl grad = 0.

So if the flow F has a potential φ,

then F = φ.

so x F = x φ = 0. :wink:

Thanks for your reply. I have found one link which could is also quite useful.
http://mathinsight.org/curl_gradient_zero
 

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