Why is k not smaller than zero?

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In summary, the equation kx2+kx+3-k = 0, where k is a constant, has no real roots. To show that 5k2-12k < 0, the book uses the formula b2-4ac < 0, where a = k and b = k squared. The set of possible values of k is 0 < k < 2.4, as k cannot be negative in order for the equation to have no real roots. This is because if k<0, (5k-12) would be positive.
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Question:

The equation kx2+kx+3-k = 0, where k is a constant, has no real roots

a) Show that 5k2-12k < 0
b) Find the set of possible values of k

Solution attempted:
a) For no real roots, b2-4ac < 0

a = k
b = k
c = 3 - k

k2 - 4k(3 - k) < 0
k2 -12k + 4k2 < 0
5k2 - 12k < 0
Hence shown

b) 5k2 - 12k < 0
k(5k-12) < 0
So k < 0 or (5k-12) < 0, k< 12/5, k<2.4

So k < 2.4

But the answer says 0 < k < 2.4

Why?
 
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Clever Penguin said:
Question:

The equation kx2+kx+3-k = 0, where k is a constant, has no real roots

a) Show that 5k2-12k < 0
b) Find the set of possible values of k

Solution attempted:
a) For no real roots, b2-4ac < 0

a = k
b = k
c = 3 - k

k - 4k(3 - k) < 0

Your ##b## should be squared.
 
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micromass said:
Your ##b## should be squared.

Done.
I'm self-studying maths, and it doesn't say why in the book.
 
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Clever Penguin said:
b) 5k2 - 12k < 0
k(5k-12) < 0
So k < 0 or (5k-12) < 0, k< 12/5, k<2.4

So k < 2.4

But the answer says 0 < k < 2.4
If k<0, then k(5k-12) < 0 cannot be true because both factors are negative.
 
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mfb said:
If k<0, then k(5k-12) < 0 cannot be true because both factors are negative.

Because if k<0, (5k-12) would be positive :wink:
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1. Why is k not smaller than zero?

K is typically used as a variable to represent a constant or coefficient in mathematical equations. In most cases, k is chosen to be greater than or equal to zero to simplify calculations and make the equations easier to understand. This is not a rule, but a convention that is commonly followed in mathematics.

2. Is there a specific reason for k not being smaller than zero?

No, there is not a specific reason for k to not be smaller than zero. It is a convention that is commonly followed in mathematics for simplicity and clarity.

3. Can k ever be smaller than zero?

Yes, in some cases, k can be smaller than zero. For example, in certain physics equations, k can represent a force or energy that is directed in the negative direction. However, this is not a common convention and is usually specified within the context of the equation.

4. Does k being smaller than zero affect the outcome of a calculation?

Yes, depending on the equation and the context in which k is used, a negative value for k can have a significant impact on the outcome of a calculation. It is important to carefully consider the meaning and purpose of k in an equation before assigning a value to it.

5. Why is k often chosen to be greater than or equal to zero?

K being greater than or equal to zero is a common convention in mathematics that helps to simplify equations and make them easier to understand. It is also easier to visualize and interpret mathematical concepts when using positive values for variables like k.

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