Why is one significant figure the norm in uncertainties?

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The discussion centers on the teaching of significant figures in uncertainties, specifically the common practice of using one significant figure for uncertainty values. Participants argue that while this rule simplifies understanding, it may not accurately reflect the precision of measurements. The Particle Data Group's guidelines for rounding uncertainties are introduced, emphasizing that the precision of the central value should match that of the uncertainty. The conversation highlights the potential discrepancies in reporting uncertainties, particularly when the error is significantly different from the central value.

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Why is it that only one significant figure for any uncertainty is taught? It seems like a nice general rule, but isn't it an unnecessary constraint and ultimately a poor rule in many cases? For example ## 5 \pm 1 ## could mean an error of either 0.5 or 1.5, which is a very large range. Wouldn't it be best to keep an additional significant figure in this case? If not, could you possibly expand on why? I have also seen more than one significant figure widely reported in research, and it doesn't seem to be too problematic in publications, yet I see this commonly taught at the high school and undergraduate level. Any advice would be great!
 
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TheCanadian said:
Why is it that only one significant figure for any uncertainty is taught? It seems like a nice general rule, but isn't it an unnecessary constraint and ultimately a poor rule in many cases? For example ## 5 \pm 1 ## could mean an error of either 0.5 or 1.5, which is a very large range. Wouldn't it be best to keep an additional significant figure in this case? If not, could you possibly expand on why? I have also seen more than one significant figure widely reported in research, and it doesn't seem to be too problematic in publications, yet I see this commonly taught at the high school and undergraduate level. Any advice would be great!

Er... ## 5 \pm 1 ## means that the value could be in the range of 4 to 6. Not sure where you get that the error is ".. either 0.5 or 1.5.." here.

There is no set standard for uncertainty. It depends on the precision of the measurement or instrument. Maybe what you are being taught is the concept of uncertainty and errors, rather than an actual measurement. So to make it easier to understand the concept, you are being taught simple stuff. And having just one significant digit in the uncertainty looks simple to me.

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You are right that there is a big gap between ±1 and ±2, although there is not such a big gap between ±0.9 (also one digit) and ±1. Some people use more complex rules, for example, here is what the Particle Data Group does:

The basic rule states that if the three highest order digits of the error lie between 100 and 354, we round to two significant digits. If they lie between 355 and 949, we round to one significant digit. Finally, if they lie between 950 and 999, we round up to 1000 and keep two significant digits. In all cases, the central value is given with a precision that matches that of the error.

In your example, they would use 5.0 ± 1.0.

The problem they are trying to avoid is a case like 500 ± 101. With an error of 101 and not 100, we are saying we know the uncertainty to about a percent. However, we only know the central value to 20%. It is highly unlikely we will know the uncertainty 20x better than the central value.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Er... ## 5 \pm 1 ## means that the value could be in the range of 4 to 6. Not sure where you get that the error is ".. either 0.5 or 1.5.." here.

There is no set standard for uncertainty. It depends on the precision of the measurement or instrument. Maybe what you are being taught is the concept of uncertainty and errors, rather than an actual measurement. So to make it easier to understand the concept, you are being taught simple stuff. And having just one significant digit in the uncertainty looks simple to me.

Zz.

I guess I was just trying to say: relative to the error (i.e. 1), if the known error is actually 1.4, then there is quite a big difference between ## 5.0 \pm 1 ## and ## 5.0 \pm 1.4 ##. This appears to be magnified if instead of 5.0, another lower measured value was found (e.g. 1.5 or 0.9), and in those cases, the realtive error caused by using either 1 or 1.4 is quite significant. This could just be easily resolved if we let the error simply be its true value, instead of doing further rounding, from what I see.

Fair enough.
 
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You are right that there is a big gap between ±1 and ±2, although there is not such a big gap between ±0.9 (also one digit) and ±1. Some people use more complex rules, for example, here is what the Particle Data Group does:
In your example, they would use 5.0 ± 1.0.

The problem they are trying to avoid is a case like 500 ± 101. With an error of 101 and not 100, we are saying we know the uncertainty to about a percent. However, we only know the central value to 20%. It is highly unlikely we will know the uncertainty 20x better than the central value.

Thank you. Just to be clear, although unlikely, it is still possible to know the uncertainty better than the central value, right?
 
Possible? Sure. Likely? No. I can't think of any time I have had that happen.
 

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