Why is one significant figure the norm in uncertainties?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the convention of using one significant figure for uncertainties in measurements. Participants explore the implications of this rule, questioning its necessity and effectiveness in various contexts, including educational settings and research publications.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the rationale behind the one significant figure rule for uncertainties, suggesting it may be overly simplistic and not applicable in all cases.
  • One participant points out that the expression ## 5 \pm 1 ## indicates a range from 4 to 6, challenging another's interpretation of the error range.
  • Another participant introduces a more complex set of rules used by the Particle Data Group for determining significant figures in uncertainties, which varies based on the magnitude of the error.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for significant differences in relative error when using rounded uncertainties, especially with lower measured values.
  • There is acknowledgment that while it is possible to know the uncertainty better than the central value, it is generally considered unlikely.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of using one significant figure for uncertainties. There is no consensus on whether this rule is adequate or if more significant figures should be used in certain situations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the choice of significant figures may depend on the precision of the measurement or instrument used, and that educational approaches may simplify concepts for clarity.

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Why is it that only one significant figure for any uncertainty is taught? It seems like a nice general rule, but isn't it an unnecessary constraint and ultimately a poor rule in many cases? For example ## 5 \pm 1 ## could mean an error of either 0.5 or 1.5, which is a very large range. Wouldn't it be best to keep an additional significant figure in this case? If not, could you possibly expand on why? I have also seen more than one significant figure widely reported in research, and it doesn't seem to be too problematic in publications, yet I see this commonly taught at the high school and undergraduate level. Any advice would be great!
 
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TheCanadian said:
Why is it that only one significant figure for any uncertainty is taught? It seems like a nice general rule, but isn't it an unnecessary constraint and ultimately a poor rule in many cases? For example ## 5 \pm 1 ## could mean an error of either 0.5 or 1.5, which is a very large range. Wouldn't it be best to keep an additional significant figure in this case? If not, could you possibly expand on why? I have also seen more than one significant figure widely reported in research, and it doesn't seem to be too problematic in publications, yet I see this commonly taught at the high school and undergraduate level. Any advice would be great!

Er... ## 5 \pm 1 ## means that the value could be in the range of 4 to 6. Not sure where you get that the error is ".. either 0.5 or 1.5.." here.

There is no set standard for uncertainty. It depends on the precision of the measurement or instrument. Maybe what you are being taught is the concept of uncertainty and errors, rather than an actual measurement. So to make it easier to understand the concept, you are being taught simple stuff. And having just one significant digit in the uncertainty looks simple to me.

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You are right that there is a big gap between ±1 and ±2, although there is not such a big gap between ±0.9 (also one digit) and ±1. Some people use more complex rules, for example, here is what the Particle Data Group does:

The basic rule states that if the three highest order digits of the error lie between 100 and 354, we round to two significant digits. If they lie between 355 and 949, we round to one significant digit. Finally, if they lie between 950 and 999, we round up to 1000 and keep two significant digits. In all cases, the central value is given with a precision that matches that of the error.

In your example, they would use 5.0 ± 1.0.

The problem they are trying to avoid is a case like 500 ± 101. With an error of 101 and not 100, we are saying we know the uncertainty to about a percent. However, we only know the central value to 20%. It is highly unlikely we will know the uncertainty 20x better than the central value.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Er... ## 5 \pm 1 ## means that the value could be in the range of 4 to 6. Not sure where you get that the error is ".. either 0.5 or 1.5.." here.

There is no set standard for uncertainty. It depends on the precision of the measurement or instrument. Maybe what you are being taught is the concept of uncertainty and errors, rather than an actual measurement. So to make it easier to understand the concept, you are being taught simple stuff. And having just one significant digit in the uncertainty looks simple to me.

Zz.

I guess I was just trying to say: relative to the error (i.e. 1), if the known error is actually 1.4, then there is quite a big difference between ## 5.0 \pm 1 ## and ## 5.0 \pm 1.4 ##. This appears to be magnified if instead of 5.0, another lower measured value was found (e.g. 1.5 or 0.9), and in those cases, the realtive error caused by using either 1 or 1.4 is quite significant. This could just be easily resolved if we let the error simply be its true value, instead of doing further rounding, from what I see.

Fair enough.
 
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You are right that there is a big gap between ±1 and ±2, although there is not such a big gap between ±0.9 (also one digit) and ±1. Some people use more complex rules, for example, here is what the Particle Data Group does:
In your example, they would use 5.0 ± 1.0.

The problem they are trying to avoid is a case like 500 ± 101. With an error of 101 and not 100, we are saying we know the uncertainty to about a percent. However, we only know the central value to 20%. It is highly unlikely we will know the uncertainty 20x better than the central value.

Thank you. Just to be clear, although unlikely, it is still possible to know the uncertainty better than the central value, right?
 
Possible? Sure. Likely? No. I can't think of any time I have had that happen.
 

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