Why Is PQ Approximated as rΔθ in Small Angles?

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The discussion centers on the approximation of the distance PQ as rΔθ in the context of small angles, particularly in relation to circular motion and the rotation of rigid bodies. Participants explore the mathematical justification and implications of this approximation.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of approximating PQ as rΔθ, noting that rΔθ represents arc length and suggesting that this approximation holds true primarily for small angles.
  • Another participant agrees that the approximation is valid for small Δθ and suggests that it may be derived from a differential context where the approximation becomes exact.
  • A further contribution provides a mathematical derivation showing that as Δθ approaches zero, the distance PQ can be expressed as rΔθ, under the condition that Δr approaches zero more rapidly than r sin(Δθ).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the approximation PQ ≈ rΔθ is valid for small angles, but there is no consensus on the broader implications or conditions under which this approximation holds.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the behavior of Δr and the limits of Δθ, which may not be fully articulated. The dependence on the context of circular motion and the specific conditions for the approximation are also noted but not resolved.

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Could someone please explain why PQ in the diagram below is rΔθ? Isn't rΔθ arc length?

The best reason I can think of is that it's only an approximation for when the angle is very small, so PQ≈arclength=rΔθ. Not 100% sure though.

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/199/feynmanangle.jpg

The diagram is from the first volume of the Feynman lectures in 18-3, in the section where he talks about rotation of rigid bodies.
 
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It is an approximation for small ##\Delta \theta##, right. I would expect that it is used in a differential somewhere, where the approximation gets exact.
 
Thanks mfb
 
Start with the actual distance:

PQ = sqrt(Δr2 + (r sin(Δθ))2)

If this is circular motion, then Δr = 0, and as Δθ -> 0, then sin(Δθ) -> Δθ, and you end up with lim Δθ -> 0 of sqrt((r sin(Δθ))2) -> sqrt((r Δθ)2) -> r Δθ.

If r is some function of θ, then as long as Δr approaches zero more rapidly than r sin(Δθ), then lim Δθ -> 0 of f(Δr, r sin(Δθ)) -> f(0, r sin(Δθ)).
 
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