Why is the Fourier Transform in QFT Divided by (2pi)?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of the Fourier Transform in Quantum Field Theory (QFT), specifically addressing the division by factors of (2π) in integrals. Participants explore the implications of this convention, its mathematical justification, and its relevance to both position and momentum wavefunctions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether Fourier analysis in QFT is solely for transitioning between position wavefunctions and wavefunctions described by wave vectors (k).
  • There is a suggestion that the division by (2π)^n is merely a convenient convention without physical significance.
  • Some participants assert that Fourier analysis serves the same purpose across different contexts, including position and momentum transformations.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of dividing by (2π)^n in integrals, with questions regarding its relation to position and frequency.
  • It is proposed that the division by (2π)^n makes the direct and inverse transforms more symmetric and easier to remember.
  • Participants discuss whether the factor needs to be included in both direct and inverse Fourier transforms, with some asserting it must be included in both.
  • A comparison is made between mathematical and physical conventions regarding the Fourier transform, highlighting differences in how factors of (2π) are treated.
  • Some participants express confusion about why different conventions exist in mathematical texts versus QFT applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the (2π) factor in Fourier transforms, with no consensus reached on its necessity or implications in QFT.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the dimensionality (n) can vary and is not strictly limited to natural numbers, as seen in discussions about dimensional regularization in divergent integrals.

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is Fourier analysis in qft just used for going from a position wavefunction to a wavefunction described by the wave vector (k)? also why is the integral divided by [2(pi)]^n where n is the number of dimensions and how do you know when to divide the integral by the 2(pi) factor or not?
 
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captain said:
why is the integral divided by [2(pi)]^n where n is the number of dimensions...

It is a convenient convention. There is no physics there.
 
captain said:
is Fourier analysis in qft just used for...

Yes. Fourier analysis is always "just used for" the same purpose.
 
olgranpappy said:
It is a convenient convention. There is no physics there.


i know n goes up to 4 but i was too lazy to say that.
 
captain said:
i know n goes up to 4 but i was too lazy to say that.

n is whatever I want it to be...
 
Plus that "n" is not necessary natural, think about dimensional regularization of divergent intergrals occurring in loop contributions.
 
but why do you need to divide by 2pi to the power of the number of dimensions you are dealing with in the integral? is it because of the whle position and frequency business. then why do you the same for going from position to momentum?
 
captain said:
but why do you need to divide by 2pi to the power of the number of dimensions you are dealing with in the integral? is it because of the whle position and frequency business. then why do you the same for going from position to momentum?

It is because the integral leaves an extra factor for which one accounts by dividing by (2pi)^n. It makes the direct and inverse transforms more symmetric, and thus more appealing and easy to remember. Since the mathematics used do not care about what physical quantities are being dealt with, the method is the same regardles of frequency/time or position/momentum transforms.
 
Nesk said:
It is because the integral leaves an extra factor for which one accounts by dividing by (2pi)^n. It makes the direct and inverse transforms more symmetric, and thus more appealing and easy to remember. Since the mathematics used do not care about what physical quantities are being dealt with, the method is the same regardles of frequency/time or position/momentum transforms.

if you want to go back from from momentum to position after doing a Fourier transform from position to momentum do you still have to divide by (2pi)^n or has that factor already been taken care during the first Fourier transform from position to momentum? does it matter in the order from which variable you go to (like from position to momentum, frequency to momentum, etc.)?
 
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if you want to go back from from momentum to position after doing a Fourier transform from position to momentum do you still have to divide by (2pi)^n or has that factor already been taken care during the first Fourier transform from position to momentum? does it matter in the order from which variable you go to (like from position to momentum, frequency to momentum, etc.)?

The factor must be inlcuded in both direct and inverse Fourier transform.
 
  • #11
how come in math Fourier analysis book it shows to divide by a factor of
(2pi)^(1/2), when in qft it shows to divide by (2pi)^n?
 
  • #12
It's just convenient to put all the two pi's on one side of the Fourier transform with no square roots.

Math people like the symmetric Fourier transform (with \sqrt{(2 pi)^n} in both transforms) but physicists prefer the non-symmetric version with all the (2 pi)'s in the momentum measure. For example, in one dimension:

Math
[tex] \tilde f(p) = \int\frac{dx}{\sqrt{2\pi}}f(x)e^{-ipx}[/tex]
[tex] f(x)=\int\frac{dp}{\sqrt{2\pi}}\tilde f(p)e^{ipx}[/tex]

vs. Physics
[tex] \tilde f(p)=\int dx f(x)e^{-ipx}[/tex]
[tex] f(x)=\int \frac{dp}{2\pi}\tilde f(p)e^{ipx}\;.[/tex]

Again, it is just a convention.

...also, this really has nothing to do in particular with "qft" so I don't know why you keep bring that up...
 

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