Why Is the Mexican Drug War Still Unresolved Despite US Funding?

[j93]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126906809

Why isn't this getting any traction?
Especially since the US gives money to the mexican money for the drug war?

 

[GRB 080319B]

I presented this issue in a earlier thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=408167&"

I'm not sure why it isn't getting any traction.

 

[j93]

even that thread immediately changes topic to legalization

 

[KalamMekhar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNiP7uJK5w

 

[GRB 080319B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_-11GbZUf3M&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_-11GbZUf3M&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FS2rUB2jHNg&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FS2rUB2jHNg&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nJP4AbAdCcE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nJP4AbAdCcE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

 

[KalamMekhar]

They are Militias in the United States. Totally legal to be in one, as long as you aren't killing anyone. But if the US GOV won't do anything about it, someone has to.

 

[j93]

They are Militias in the United States. Totally legal to be in one, as long as you aren't killing anyone. But if the US GOV won't do anything about it, someone has to.

So these militias arent killing anyone or on the road to killing anyone and are taking a stand against heavily armed drug lords

 

[Office_Shredder]

Take it with a grain of salt.

I feel like by this point if there was actually a running gun battle between a militia and a Mexican drug cartel it would have hit the national media like wildfire. I'm guessing it didn't happen

 

[KalamMekhar]

I feel like by this point if there was actually a running gun battle between a militia and a Mexican drug cartel it would have hit the national media like wildfire. I'm guessing it didn't happen

Exactly what I thought when I saw the thread on a different website.

 

[GRB 080319B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/byivvOzteqw&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/byivvOzteqw&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

 

[GRB 080319B]

...But if the US GOV won't do anything about it, someone has to.

Is this what you're referring to?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/16/obama-lawsuit-invites-fortified-state-militia/"

 

[KalamMekhar]

Is this what you're referring to?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/16/obama-lawsuit-invites-fortified-state-militia/"

I haven't read that one yet. Interesting article!

Is anyone in favor of moving to AZ for a little run and gun late August?

 

[chemisttree]

Now prison guards have been corrupted (SURPRISE!) and are http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/world/article_e2de4579-06bd-5e61-a643-f25dc1b56219.html" You will read that bodies of victims are being dumped in the streets of Acapulco!

It isn't just a border thing by a long shot.

 

[chemisttree]

The link above was moved. Here is another one.
Now prison guards have been corrupted (SURPRISE!) and are http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/07/25/2359641/officials-at-mexican-prison-accused.html"

And http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/7910206/Convicts-used-as-hit-squad-by-Mexican-prison-governor.html"

 

[Ivan Seeking]

even that thread immediately changes topic to legalization

That's because many people think this is the single most effective solution to this problem that we have - that, and getting control of the illegal immigration problem, which also helps to fund cartels [human trafficking]. Like most things in life, it's all about money.

I believe this is just one example of the many "benefits" we reap from the so-called war on drugs - we are funding these guys.

This stuff often doesn't get headlines because it has been going on for so long. There is nothing sexy about a war that we lost long ago.

 

[Alfi]

Like most things in life, it's all about money.

LMAO - Sounds like Capitalism :) Supply and Demand, Too big to Fail.

 

[ThomasT]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126906809

Why isn't this getting any traction?
Especially since the US gives money to the mexican money for the drug war?

This might be related to the thread on liberal-conservative bias in the media. It's a sort of embarrassment for the US, but of course if not many people know of it, then the potential damage is minimized. But really, let's face it, this is America. Nobody cares anyway -- except those people on the border of course.

My guess is that the US simply isn't capable of stopping either the drug or human trafficking problems. The criminal gangs have more people, more money, and better equipment than the DEA and the border patrols and the local cops.

Obama has said that he's not interested in militarizing the Mexican border. So, there will be no, or little, help from the US government in this (I think they did send a certain number of agents to the areas involved.)

We give certain people in the Mexican government about a billion a year for this. The drug people probably give them more -- with the added incentive that they'll be tortured and killed if they decide to suddenly get honest rather than take the money.

So, really, we're just wasting that money.

And my advice to people who live on the US-Mexican border is to just get away from there as soon as you can. Things are going to get a whole lot worse.

 

[GRB 080319B]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2010/08/02/vo.explosives.fired.at.police.xhij?hpt=T2"

 

[chemisttree]

Mexican policeman being http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/07/interrogatorio-rodolfo-najera-policia.html" The policeman (25 year veteran in the city of Lerdo, a suburb of Torreón) admits to working for a rival drug gang and reveals all of his cohorts on the force that do the same. He even describes their cars to these gunmen! Violence ensues...

Warning! Graphic violence.

http://www.pittsreport.com/2010/07/rodolfo-najera-is-about-to-die-in-this-video/"

 

[chemisttree]

A map of the various http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/01/maps-of-mexico-cartels.html" Its the whole country.