Why is the pressure on a charged sphere only exerted on the contact area?

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The discussion revolves around the pressure exerted on a charged metal sphere, specifically questioning why this pressure is only considered on the contact area between two spheres. The subject area includes electrostatics and pressure concepts related to charged objects.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between surface pressure and the pressure on the contact area, questioning the assumptions behind the equivalence of these pressures. There are inquiries about the uniformity of surface charge and the implications of integrating forces over small area elements.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of pressure on charged surfaces and the mathematical reasoning behind force integration. Some participants express confusion about the stated equivalence of pressures, while others attempt to clarify the reasoning behind it.

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There is a focus on the assumptions related to the uniform surface charge of the metal sphere and the implications of this assumption on the calculations being discussed. Participants are also considering the geometric aspects of the contact area in relation to the overall pressure exerted.

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Homework Statement
A metal sphere of radius R is cut in 2 along a plane whose minimum distance from the sphere's centre is h. The sphere has a uniform charge of Q. What force is necessary to hold the 2 parts of the sphere together?
Relevant Equations
F = 1/2 E Q
The force per unit area (Pressure) on a part of the sphere is given by F = (E outside + E inside)/2 * Q = 0.5 (kQ/R^2) * (Q/ 4piR^2) = (Q^2/ 32pi^2 e0 R^4).

I understand the above line.

The solution then says this pressure is exerted on the contact area between the 2 spheres, as given by pi(R^2 - h^2).
Total force needed is Pressure x Area.

Why that the pressure only exerted on the contact area? Isn't that the pressure exerted on the surface of the sphere, and so what is the link between the pressure on the surface of the sphere being equal to the pressure on the contact area?
 
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It says metal sphere, so is this a uniform surface charge?
 
haruspex said:
It says metal sphere, so is this a uniform surface charge?

yes, that is why we are using surface charge density as given by Q/4piR^2 in the calculation of surface pressure. Why is the surface pressure equivalent to the pressure exerted on the contact surface between the 2 parts of the sliced sphere?
 
phantomvommand said:
yes, that is why we are using surface charge density as given by Q/4piR^2 in the calculation of surface pressure. Why is the surface pressure equivalent to the pressure exerted on the contact surface between the 2 parts of the sliced sphere?
The force exerted by the pressure on a small area element is normal to the element. For the net force over the whole cap you need to integrate this as a vector. The components normal to the axis of the cap will cancel.
 
haruspex said:
The force exerted by the pressure on a small area element is normal to the element. For the net force over the whole cap you need to integrate this as a vector. The components normal to the axis of the cap will cancel.

that could be one way. But the solution states that the net force would simply be

Pressure x contact area,

why is that so?
 
phantomvommand said:
that could be one way. But the solution states that the net force would simply be

Pressure x contact area,

why is that so?
For the reason I gave. ##F=\int P.\vec{dA}=P\int\vec{dA}##.
If the plane of the cut is S (represented by a vector ##\vec S## normal to the plane S) then each ##\vec{dA}## can be resolved into an area element vector parallel to vector ##\vec S## and a vector normal to ##\vec S##.
In the integral, the components normal to ##\vec S## cancel, leaving only the projection of the cap onto S.
 
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haruspex said:
For the reason I gave. ##F=\int P.\vec{dA}=P\int\vec{dA}##.
If the plane of the cut is S (represented by a vector ##\vec S## normal to the plane S) then each ##\vec{dA}## can be resolved into an area element vector parallel to vector ##\vec S## and a vector normal to ##\vec S##.
In the integral, the components normal to ##\vec S## cancel, leaving only the projection of the cap onto S.
thank you!
 

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