Why is the radius of a twirling rope represented by Lcostheta instead of r?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the representation of the radius in the context of a rope twirling an object in a circular motion. The original poster is confused about why the radius is expressed as Lcostheta instead of simply r, given that the rope is at an angle rather than horizontal.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the angle of the rope and the horizontal radius of the circular motion. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the rope's orientation and its implications for the radius.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the angle of the rope and its effect on the radius. There seems to be a productive exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants indicating a shift in understanding.

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The original poster references a specific example from a physics website, which may impose certain constraints or assumptions that are being discussed but not fully resolved in the thread.

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I'm having difficulty understanding why the radius is not represented by r, but Lcostheta , isn't the entire rope in the horizontal direction? There is something I'm missing. Thanks. (Hopefully I posted this correctly.)

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The problem is example 1 on http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/py105.html
You have to click on Circular Motion on the left-hand side of the site.

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F=mv^2/r

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It has already been solved on the web site.
 
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The example indicates quite plainly that the rope is not horizontal, but at an angle. Do you not understand why this is so?
 
Perhaps I'm having difficulty understanding what is being described. The rope is at an angle twirling some object in a horizontal circle. I understand why the tension would need to be broken down into its components. But it seems that the radius of the horizontal circle is purely horizontal (even if the rope is not) thus the radius would be r. I suspect I'm asking a very simple question, but I'm just not getting it. Thanks
 
I think I understand now: We have the length of the rope so the radius of the rope can be described as the horizontal component of the length of the rope. Thanks for your help, it was hard for me to see.
 
Yes, your current understanding is correct. r is indeed the "horizontal component" of the rope.
 

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