Why Is the Reaction Force Inclined in One Case but Perpendicular in Another?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of reaction forces in two scenarios involving a rod positioned at an angle on different surfaces. The original poster questions why the reaction force is inclined in one case and perpendicular in another, prompting exploration of the underlying physics principles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants inquire about the complete problem statement for the rod at angle ##\beta## and discuss the implications of surface conditions on the reaction forces. There is a focus on understanding the nature of forces acting on the rod in both scenarios, including the role of friction and normal forces.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the problem statements and have pointed out potential inconsistencies in the descriptions of the surfaces. The conversation is exploring different interpretations of the forces involved, particularly in relation to the angle of the rod and the conditions of the surfaces.

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There is a mention of a rough surface in one scenario, which may affect the analysis of friction and normal forces. The original poster's reference to a smooth surface has led to some confusion that is being addressed in the discussion.

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Homework Statement
Find the reaction force acting on the rod
Relevant Equations
##F=ma##
##M=I\alpha##
Hi, I have a doubt about reaction forces... I've attached a picture that shows two similar situations. The first one shows a rod left with an angle ##\beta## while it is on a smooth surface. The second one shows a rod leaning on a smooth surface and wall.

My question is: why is the reaction force "inclined" in the first case but perpendicular to the wall and surface in the second one?
 

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Do you have the complete problem statement for the rod at angle ##\beta##?
 
TSny said:
Do you have the complete problem statement for the rod at angle ##\beta##?
It says "A rod is released from rest at an angle ##\beta## on a rough surface so that there's no slip. Determine angular acceleration, reaction force, friction force and the minimun coefficient of friction so that there's no slip"
 
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It says "A rod is released from rest at an angle ##\beta## on a rough surface so that there's no slip. Determine angular acceleration, reaction force, friction force and the minimun coefficient of friction so that there's no slip"
Originally you wrote it was a smooth surface, no?
In both cases there is, potentially, a normal force and a frictional force. You can choose to represent these components separately or as a single reaction force.

In the left hand picture, it shows the net force as being along the rod. I can't see why it should be. Maybe the task is to find at what angle that would be true.

In the right hand picture, there is no friction so you only have the normal forces.
 
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