Why is the square modulus of the wave function used in quantum mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the use of the square modulus of the wave function in quantum mechanics, exploring its significance as a probability amplitude and the reasoning behind using the square rather than other even functions. Participants delve into mathematical and conceptual justifications for this choice, touching on topics such as normalization, unitarity, and the structure of quantum mechanics.

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  • Some participants propose that the square modulus arises from the need for a probability amplitude to be a complex number, with the square providing a means for interference effects.
  • Others argue that the normalization condition for wave functions leads to the necessity of using the form \(\psi^{\dagger}\psi\), which is invariant under unitary transformations.
  • A participant explains that the squared modulus can be expressed as \(|\psi|^{2} = \psi\bar{\psi}\), allowing for a representation that incorporates both real and imaginary components of \(\psi\).
  • Another point raised is that the vector formalism in quantum mechanics necessitates the probability density to be the inner product of a unit vector and its dual, leading to the conclusion that \(|\psi|^{2}\) is a natural choice.
  • One participant mentions an alternative perspective, suggesting that \(|\psi|^{2}\) is a postulate that does not necessarily follow from unitarity alone, referencing their own paper on the topic.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the structure of quantum mechanics is fundamentally based on vector spaces and linear algebra, with wavefunctions being specific representations of these underlying principles.

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Participants express a variety of viewpoints regarding the justification for using the square modulus of the wave function, with no clear consensus reached. Some agree on the mathematical necessity related to normalization and unitarity, while others challenge the sufficiency of these explanations.

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Some limitations in the discussion include unresolved assumptions about the nature of measurement outcomes and the potential for alternative mathematical frameworks that could represent quantum mechanics differently.

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The wave function is a probability amplitude.
So far so good.
This means that it doesn't give us the probability directly and it can be a complex number.
Taking the square modulus of it, gives rise to interference. That's very good.

But why the square, why not the fourth power or any even function, like cosh(|phi|)?

Simplicity is the winner, but why?

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I think it reduces to this: if \psi is normalized, then so must be any \hat{U} \psi for unitary U, and the only general way to have the unitarily-invariant statement A(\psi)=1 is something like A(\psi)\equiv \psi^{\dagger}\psi \rightarrow \psi^{\dagger} (U^{\dagger} U) \psi = \psi^{\dagger}\psi. So the '2' comes from the number of times U enters in the unitarity definition.
 
The squared modulus of \psi is equal to \psi times its complex conjugate.

|\psi|^{2} = \psi\bar{\psi}

The complex conjugate allows us to make a function that can be expressed in terms of both the real and imaginary parts of \psi. If instead we treated \psi as a single complex parameter, then it would be one-dimensional. Complex conjugation, combined with other operations, doesn't require a mapping to be conformal either.
 
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The vector formalism requires the probability density to be the inner product of the unit vector and its dual, which when translated to the position basis gives us phi times its conjugate, that is mod phi squared.
 
loom91 said:
The vector formalism requires the probability density to be the inner product of the unit vector and its dual, which when translated to the position basis gives us phi times its conjugate, that is mod phi squared.

So in other words, the question of why |\psi(x)|^2 reduces to that of why \psi^{\dagger}\psi (or in Dirac notation, \langle \psi | \psi \rangle). Which is still an interesting question (see my previous post). More generally yet, why do normed Hilbert spaces correctly represent the physics, as opposed to some other algebraic system? I'm not sure if there's a more fundamental principle involved here. Anyway the reality of it is very convenient.
 
Rach3 said:
I think it reduces to this: if \psi is normalized, then so must be any \hat{U} \psi for unitary U, and the only general way to have the unitarily-invariant statement A(\psi)=1 is something like A(\psi)\equiv \psi^{\dagger}\psi \rightarrow \psi^{\dagger} (U^{\dagger} U) \psi = \psi^{\dagger}\psi. So the '2' comes from the number of times U enters in the unitarity definition.

Well, I will make some publicity for my little paper where I show that you can use very well some other rules, and that |psi|^2 is a postulate which does not follow from the unitary alone:

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0505059

(at least, under the condition that there are only a finite number of possible measurement outcomes, which is always the case in a real measurement).
 
In case any lurkers are confused, the basic idea here is that the QM structure is in vector spaces and linear algebra, and wavefunctions \psi(x) and \phi(p) are only a particular representations of this; the rules of wavefunctions derive from the more fundamental rules of inner products of vectors.
 

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