Why is the strong Nuclear force the strongest?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relative strengths of the fundamental forces, particularly focusing on the strong nuclear force, electromagnetic force, and gravity. Participants explore the nature of these forces, their interactions, and the conditions under which they can be compared, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the electromagnetic force is inherently stronger than gravity, suggesting that the comparison may depend on the mass-to-charge ratio of matter.
  • Others provide numerical examples, such as the electrostatic and gravitational forces between protons, to illustrate the vast difference in their magnitudes and propose that the perceived strength of forces is contingent on specific conditions.
  • One participant explains gravity in terms of relativity, describing how mass warps space-time and affects the movement of matter, while noting that the electromagnetic force can be stronger at the atomic level.
  • Another participant discusses the potential for gravity to be quantized, similar to other forces, and raises the idea that the graviton has not been definitively ruled out.
  • Some participants use analogies, such as comparing protons to eggs with shells, to illustrate the relationship between electrostatic forces and gravitational forces, suggesting that increasing mass may not change the fundamental relationship between these forces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of force comparisons, the implications of mass and charge, and the potential for quantizing gravity. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the strength of forces may depend on various factors, including mass, charge, and the specific context of interactions, leading to uncertainty about how these forces can be compared meaningfully.

  • #31
That was not my intention, sorry. English is not my native language, and I do not like to write 100 words if I can express the same content with 10 or 1. Can you explain which parts appear slightly insulting to you?
 
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  • #32
The 'This is just wrong' remark was a bit of a kick in the nuts, but that's ok, I understand =) It's not often you get to converse with decent, respectable people on the Internet but PhysicsForums seems to be a hub for the helpful and considerate. Anyway, I'm straying away from the thread topic and the rules ask us not to so I'll depart. Thanks again, everyone.
 
  • #33
JakusLarkus hey don't take that personally because throughout the quest for knowledge we all amke and have made mistakes and if someone says that you are wrong (theoretically or empirically) then it is just that your state of knowledge about the matter might need some help not you as a human being , so it is always good to not "fall in love" or take basic physical descriptions of natural laws or phenomenon very personally because later you will find out that either you were wrong at some point about them or maybe science will have something better at the time to offer as an explanation.

We all have made mistakes and history of science also the history of the world as a whole is full with them , but then again they are here to help us become better so every "kick in the balls" makes you stronger in this case.
 
  • #34
Hi Jakus...you said ..
The 'This is just wrong' remark was a bit of a kick...

perhaps some posters will even be mean intentionally...you have two choices here...if you just want to show off and somebody criticizes you, well that's just too bad...on the other hand if you want to learn, then accept corrections when you believe them accurate...

Did you survive, learn something, and move on...bravo, that's the key to life!
 

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