Why Is the Tension in the Rope Not Matching the Book's Calculation?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the tension in a rope lifting a 12kg block with a downward acceleration of 5 m/s². The user initially calculated tension using the formula T = mg + ma, resulting in 180N, while the book provided a solution of 60N using T + ma = mg. The confusion arises from the interpretation of forces and acceleration directions, emphasizing the need to correctly apply Newton's second law in the context of net forces acting on the object.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Familiarity with force diagrams and vector components
  • Knowledge of basic physics equations, specifically T = mg and F = ma
  • Ability to analyze forces in different directions
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of Newton's second law in various scenarios
  • Learn about free-body diagrams and how to represent forces visually
  • Explore the concept of net force and its implications in motion
  • Review examples of tension calculations in different contexts, such as pulleys and inclined planes
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics, as well as educators looking for clarification on force analysis and tension calculations in dynamic systems.

Gear2d
Messages
49
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement




I have a 12kg block that is raised by a rope. If the velocity of the mass is decreasing at a rate of 5 m/s^2, what is tension in the rope?

Homework Equations



T=mg
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



My solution: T = mg+ ma = 180N

Book solution: T+ma = mg => 60N

I am confused as why you are subtracting here. I see that acceleration is in the downward direction (as stated by the question stem), but the object is still been raised. So shouldn't it be T = mg+ ma? Because to me, T+ma =mg looks like that acceleration of the mass is the upward direction (if that were the case the object would be increasing it speed not decreasing),
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi Gear2d,

Gear2d said:

Homework Statement




I have a 12kg block that is raised by a rope. If the velocity of the mass is decreasing at a rate of 5 m/s^2, what is tension in the rope?

Homework Equations



T=mg

This equation is not true.

F=ma

I think you might need to be a bit more careful with this equation. This equation should be either:

[tex] \sum \vec F = m \vec a \mbox{ or } \vec F_{\rm net} = m\vec a[/tex]

and when you actually use it here, for example in the [itex]y[/itex] direction, you get:

[tex] \begin{align}<br /> \sum F_y = m a_y\nonumber\\<br /> F_{1y}+F_{2y} = m a_y\nonumber<br /> \end{align}[/tex]

since there are two forces. So what are the [itex]y[/itex]-components, including sign, of the tension and weight forces? And what is the [itex]y[/itex]-component of the acceleration? Those, with the correct sign, are what go into the force equation.

The Attempt at a Solution



My solution: T = mg+ ma = 180N

Book solution: T+ma = mg => 60N

I am confused as why you are subtracting here. I see that acceleration is in the downward direction (as stated by the question stem), but the object is still been raised. So shouldn't it be T = mg+ ma? Because to me, T+ma =mg looks like that acceleration of the mass is the upward direction (if that were the case the object would be increasing it speed not decreasing),
 

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
2K
  • · Replies 38 ·
2
Replies
38
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K