Why is the Wiener process defined using step size \(\sqrt{h}Z_j\)?

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The discussion centers on the definition of the Wiener process, specifically the choice of step size \(\sqrt{h}Z_j\) in its formulation. Participants explore the implications of this choice in terms of variance and distribution, considering alternative scales such as \(h \cdot Z_j\) or \(h^2 \cdot Z_j\). The conversation encompasses theoretical aspects of stochastic processes and the mathematical foundations of the Wiener process.

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  • Some participants question why the step size is defined as \(\sqrt{h}Z_j\) rather than other forms like \(h \cdot Z_j\) or \(h^2 \cdot Z_j\), suggesting that \(\sqrt{h}\) is the only scale that leads to a finite non-zero variance.
  • One participant explains that using \(\sqrt{t(j) - t(j-1)}\) ensures the correct variance for the increments of the Wiener process, emphasizing the importance of this choice in maintaining the properties of the process.
  • Another participant notes that while the distribution of the Wiener process does not depend on the time step \(h\), the actual value of the process diverges as \(h\) approaches zero, presenting calculations to support this claim.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of splitting limits in calculations, with a participant arguing that such an approach does not yield a real number but rather a random variable representing the Wiener process.
  • Discussion includes the requirement for Gaussian increments to have a zero mean, with a participant highlighting that adding a drift term must be proportional to \(dt\) rather than \(\sqrt{dt}\).
  • Another participant discusses the equivalence of different formulations by checking the moments of the distributions involved, asserting that the second moment should equal \(t\) to satisfy the defining properties of the Wiener process.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the step size choice and its effects on the properties of the Wiener process. There is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations or interpretations presented, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings in the application of limits and the dependence on specific definitions of the Wiener process. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the implications of the step size on the process's behavior.

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Introductory texts on Wiener Process often introduce the topic by dividing the time into small time steps [tex]h=\Delta t[/tex].
Then the value of the process [tex]W_j[/tex] at time j, [tex]t_j[/tex] is given by adding up many independent and normally distributed increments:

[tex] W_{j+1}=W_j+\sqrt{h}Z_j[/tex]

The Wiener process [tex]W(t)[/tex] is generated in the limit as the step size [tex]h \rightarrow 0[/tex].

My question is why is the step size [tex]\sqrt{h}Z_j[/tex] and not some other scale of h, such as [tex]h\cdot Z_j[/tex] or [tex]h^2 \cdot Z_j[/tex], say?
 
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My question is why is the step size [tex]\sqrt{h}Z_j[/tex] and not some other scale of h, such as [tex]h\cdot Z_j[/tex] or [tex]h^2 \cdot Z_j[/tex], say?

This scale is the only one where the variance converges to a finite non-zero value.
 
I think of it as follows. Let Zj be standard normal, N(0,1) for all j. Let Wt be a Wiener (Brownian) process constructed, perhaps, through a Brownian bridge. Wt - Ws is distributed normally with mean 0 and variance |t - s|.

Wt(j) - Wt(j-1) = Zj[itex]\sqrt{t(j) - t(j-1)}[/itex]. Then Var[Wt(j) - Wt(j-1)] = Var[Zj]|t(j) - t(j-1)| = |t(j) - t(j-1)|.

Had I replaced [itex]\sqrt{t(j) - t(j-1)}[/itex] with anything else then I would not have obtained the correct variance for a Wiener process.
 
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Yes, I see that that upon choosing the scale as [tex]\sqrt{h}[/tex], the distribution of [tex]W(t)[/tex] will not depend on the time step [tex]h[/tex].

However, notice that the value of Weiner process itself will diverge as we take smaller and smaller time steps. Why?

Below I've done the calculations and I'm almost certain they are correct. (I use the law of large numbers to go from the fourth to the fifth equation)
[tex] W(t)=lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{k=0}^n \sqrt{\frac{t}{n}} Z_k[/tex]
[tex] W(t)=\sqrt{t}\cdot lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\sum_{k=0}^n Z_k[/tex]
[tex] W(t)=\sqrt{t}\cdot lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n}\sum_{k=0}^n Z_k[/tex]
[tex] W(t)=\sqrt{t}\cdot \left(lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\sqrt{n}\right) \cdot \left(lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{n}\sum_{k=0}^n Z_k\right)[/tex]
[tex] W(t)=\sqrt{t}\cdot \left(lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\sqrt{n}\right) \left(\mu_z\right)[/tex]
[tex] W(t)=\sqrt{t}\cdot \mu_z \cdot lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\sqrt{n} \rightarrow \infty[/tex]


where above [tex]W_0=0, t=n\cdot h[/tex] and [tex]\mu_z[/tex] is the mean of the [tex]Z_j[/tex]
 
Apteronotus said:
[tex] W(t)=\sqrt{t}\cdot \mu_z \cdot lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\sqrt{n} \rightarrow \infty[/tex]
where above [tex]W_0=0, t=n\cdot h[/tex] and [tex]\mu_z[/tex] is the mean of the [tex]Z_j[/tex]

Here [tex]\mu_z=0[/tex]. To add a drift term (eg in a stochastic DE) it must have size dt not [tex]\sqrt{dt}[/tex].
 
The gaussian increments should have a zero mean, as mentioned above. So in line four your are splitting a limit into one part that approaches infinity and one part that approaches 0. That will of course not lead you to the answer.

Anyway, when you perform this limiting procedure, the right hand side will converge towards a random variable, namely the Wiener process at time t, so it will not approach any real number.

In order to show the equivalence between the two on the level of distributions, you can check the different moments of the distribution of the random variables on each side. In particular the second moment about 0 should be t, since this is one of the defining properties of the Wiener process:

Left hand side, by def. of Wiener process

[tex] E[W(t)W(t)] = t[/tex]

Then check the right hand side, before taking the limit. We get

[tex] \frac{t}{n}\sum_{i,j}E[Z_i Z_j] = \frac{t}{n}\sum_{i}E[Z_i Z_i]<br /> = \frac{t}{n}\sum_{i} 1 = t[/tex]

where I have used independence of increments:

[tex] E[Z_i Z_j] = 0\quad\mathrm{when}\quad i\neq j[/tex]

and by definition:

[tex] E[Z_iZ_i] = 1[/tex]

So the second moment of the right hand side has the correct value, and is even independent of n.

Torquil
 

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