Why is there a difference ?Melting Point of Lead & Tungsten: Find RMSA

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The discussion focuses on the melting points of lead and tungsten, specifically analyzing the root mean square amplitude of atomic vibrations as it relates to melting phenomena. The user employs Lindemann's criterion and relevant equations, such as the root mean square amplitude formula, to explore the relationship between atomic vibrations and melting temperature. Key data provided includes lead's melting temperature of 3650 K, a molar volume of 0.0953 m³, and Young's modulus of 36 x 1010 N/m². The user seeks clarification on the correct approach to calculating the spring constant and the implications of Lindemann's constant variations.

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  • Understanding of Lindemann's criterion for melting point analysis
  • Familiarity with root mean square amplitude calculations
  • Knowledge of Young's modulus and its application in material science
  • Basic principles of atomic structure and interatomic distances
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Homework Statement


Hi all, I have a question which is regarding melting point. I know that lindemann's criterion doesn't actually describe the phenomena of melting but is an approximation of what maybe occurring/ an intuitive approach.

So the question is in a tabulated form for lead and tungsten ( assuming crystals) with Youngs modulus, Molar volume and melting temperature given and they want me to describe the terms / details quantitatively.

I have assumed that they want me to essentially find out the root mean square amplitude of the vibrations which will eventually give me a separation distance (not equlibirum) that needs to be at least 10% of a fraction to the inter atomic distance.

Homework Equations

Root mean square of amplitude of atomic vibrations is given by the following equation:

\sqrt{<u^2>} = \sqrt{KbT/D} where D = spring constant.

D = Yr_{0}

The Attempt at a Solution



Data given for lead is:

T_{m} = 3650 K , Molar volume : 0.0953m^3 , Young's modulus: 36*10^10 N/m^2

My approach involved finding out the vibrational energy by kbT. Then equating that to 1/2kx^2 ( here 'x' = r-r0) but first I need to find out spring constant k and separation at equlibirum.

To get 'k' I have used the following equation:
k= Yr_{0}
and for r_{0} , Molar volume = N_{a}b* (r_{0})^3Is the above approach right ? is this how I am mean't to do it ?

Thanks for your replies and merry christmas !Edit: Also one more thing which confuses me slightly .. I know that lindemann's constant is a value which's usually same i.e doesn't vary but I have seen different variation to get it... is the rms of the amplitude of the vibration = C * interatomic distance ? can someone clarify this for me as well. Thanks!

EDIT2: If you have a look on the following links.. you will notice that there is a difference of powers for the mean square amplitude value <u^2> = ..
http://phycomp.technion.ac.il/~phsorkin/thesis/node4.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_point
 
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Can someone clairfy to me when exactly does melting occur. Is it when the root mean square of the amplitude gets to about 10% of the inter atomic distance or is it just the mean square of the amplitude ?

Also to find the inter atomic distance.. is that same as 'r0' separation of atoms at equilibrium ?

<u^2> = Cl^2 * a^2 is this the right expression ? Google hasn't helped much on this but has shown some conflicting form.
Thank you..
 

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