Why is there no maximum temperature?

[Sdog]

Given that absolute zero is the lowest temperature possible, were all particles have zero vibration. And given that the speed of light is the highest speed any object, particle, sub atomic or not can travel. Using 2 of the most fundamental laws of physics thermodynamics and general relativity. If all sub atomic or rather if all findamental particles are vibrating at the speed of light in a solid or bumping into each other in a gas at the same speed, is this not surley the absolute maximum temperature?? Please discuss, irrelevant if praticly possible theoretically i believe this is the absolute max

 

[berkeman]

Given that absolute zero is the lowest temperature possible, were all particles have zero vibration. And given that the speed of light is the highest speed any object, particle, sub atomic or not can travel. Using 2 of the most fundamental laws of physics thermodynamics and general relativity. If all sub atomic or rather if all findamental particles are vibrating at the speed of light in a solid or bumping into each other in a gas at the same speed, is this not surley the absolute maximum temperature?? Please discuss, irrelevant if praticly possible theoretically i believe this is the absolute max

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Welcome to the PF.

Have you learned about the Lorentz Factor yet? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_factor

 

[Flatland]

Given that absolute zero is the lowest temperature possible, were all particles have zero vibration. And given that the speed of light is the highest speed any object, particle, sub atomic or not can travel. Using 2 of the most fundamental laws of physics thermodynamics and general relativity. If all sub atomic or rather if all findamental particles are vibrating at the speed of light in a solid or bumping into each other in a gas at the same speed, is this not surley the absolute maximum temperature?? Please discuss, irrelevant if praticly possible theoretically i believe this is the absolute max

There is. Look up Planck's temperature.

 

[russ_watters]

Given that absolute zero is the lowest temperature possible, were all particles have zero vibration. And given that the speed of light is the highest speed any object, particle, sub atomic or not can travel. Using 2 of the most fundamental laws of physics thermodynamics and general relativity. If all sub atomic or rather if all findamental particles are vibrating at the speed of light in a solid or bumping into each other in a gas at the same speed, is this not surley the absolute maximum temperature??

Temperature is related to kinetic energy. The speed of light does not provide a limit to kinetic energy; kinetic energy increases without limit as you approach it.

 

[ScientistAlexandrus]

It is in all probability linked to Planck's limit which is also based on the Limit to the Speed of Light. Temperature is a resultant of Heat which itself is a form of Energy. What happens is that if you need more Energy at a point or a defined region and start bringing that region with energy and that reaches the Planck's limit,you get a Black Hole where the laws of Physics as we know yet,break down. We can't comprehend the things beyond the Event Horizon so that is not treated with too much relevance to the Temperature. So,by and large,this is the reason why you don't see "Infinite" temperature.

 

[ScientistAlexandrus]

And,Absolute Zero is possible? I don't think you can "reach" Absolute zero like that. Even if you go to the lowest possible energy states,there is always some Quantum vibrations and fluctuations as per the Heisenberg principle. In theory and principle,you cannot probably reach that point is what I believe at least according to the conventional Science we have as of now. You can probably go near and near that temperature as it becomes harder to proceed further and at one point becomes impossible. I wish to be corrected on this,though.

 

[Vanadium 50]

There is. Look up Planck's temperature.

Planck units are not the biggest or smallest of anything. The Planck resistance is 30 ohms.

It is in all probability linked to Planck's limit which is also based on the Limit to the Speed of Light.

See above.

 

[DrClaude]

Given that absolute zero is the lowest temperature possible, were all particles have zero vibration.

This is a very naive view of temperature. First, even at absolute zero, there can be residual zero-point energy (e.g., a molecule vibrates even at T = 0). Second, what about negative temperatures, which are actually hotter than an infinite temperature?

 

[Sdog]

Temperature is related to kinetic energy. The speed of light does not provide a limit to kinetic energy; kinetic energy increases without limit as you approach it.

If temmperature is the average of all particles kinetic energy in a substance and in this theoretical scenario all particles are moving at the speed of light then it does have an effect

 

[russ_watters]

If temmperature is the average of all particles kinetic energy in a substance and in this theoretical scenario all particles are moving at the speed of light then it does have an effect

What effect is that? Did you understand what I wrote? I should add that particles can't move at the speed of light. Do you understand why and how that relates to what I said?

 

[Flatland]

Planck units are not the biggest or smallest of anything. The Planck resistance is 30 ohms.
See above.

Planck's temperature has a specific unit of 1.417×10^32 kelvin

 

[weirdoguy]

Planck's temperature has a specific unit of 1.417×10^32 kelvin

So what?

 

[Flatland]

So what?

I can say the same about your previous comment.

 

[weirdoguy]

It was my first comment. Besides, you said that Planck temperature is the highest possible, which is not true. Then you gave its value, which does not change the fact that it's not the highest temperature, so I wonder what's your point.