Why Is There No Simple Formula for the Sum of a Harmonic Progression?

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The discussion revolves around the absence of a simple formula for the sum of a harmonic progression (HP). Participants explore the reasons behind this complexity, referencing mathematical properties and existing resources.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a statement from Wikipedia regarding the impossibility of summing a harmonic progression to an integer, attributing this to the presence of denominators divisible by unique prime numbers.
  • One participant shares a link to a discussion and proof that may clarify the topic further.
  • Another participant mentions a video that purportedly explains the concepts more clearly.
  • There is a mention of the asymptotic behavior of the harmonic sum as n grows large, approximating it to \(\ln(n) + \gamma\).
  • A participant presents a formula involving the polygamma function for the sum of a specific form of harmonic progression, noting its limited practical utility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and clarity regarding the reasons for the lack of a simple formula, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the distinction between integer sums and other types of sums, suggesting that the complexity may arise from different mathematical contexts.

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Do you mean the phrase:

It is not possible for a harmonic progression (other than the trivial case where a = 1 and k = 0) to sum to an integer. The reason is that, necessarily, at least one denominator of the progression will be divisible by a prime number that does not divide any other denominator.[1]
 
jedishrfu said:
Do you mean the phrase:
Yes
 
I think this video makes every thing clearer, thanks jedishrfu
 
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Still i don't have any clue/answer for why there is no formula for sum of HP for n terms, and i am not able to open your link
 
Are you asking why there is not a smart formula for the exact sum with k from 0 to n ? The wiki page speaks mainly of integer sum and the clever video of divergence and infinite sum, which are another things.
 
As n grows large, you have [itex]\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{1}{k}\approx \ln(n)+\gamma[/itex].
 
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there is a nice but not very useful formula :
[itex]\sum_{k=1}^{n}{\frac{1}{{a}+{b k}}}=\frac{{\psi^{(0)}({{\frac{a}{b}}+{n}}+{1})}-{\psi^{(0)}({\frac{a}{b}}+{1})}}{b}[/itex] where [itex]\psi^{(n)}(u)[/itex] is the polygamma function
 
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Igael said:
Are you asking why there is not a smart formula for the exact sum with k from 0 to n ?
Yes
 

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