Why is this incorrect? (Two-dimensional motion problem)

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The problem involves determining the position vector and displacement of a watermelon seed in a three-dimensional coordinate system, specifically focusing on its magnitude and angle relative to the positive x-axis. The original poster has successfully solved parts of the problem but is struggling with the angle calculation for the displacement.

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  • Participants discuss the components of the displacement and question the method used to calculate the angle. There is an exploration of the inverse tangent function and adjustments made to the angle based on quadrant considerations.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the approach to finding the angle for the displacement. Some guidance has been offered regarding visualizing the problem and considering the correct quadrant for angle adjustments. Multiple interpretations of the angle calculation are being explored.

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The original poster indicates that their answer for part d is being rejected, suggesting there may be constraints or specific expectations in the problem setup that are not fully addressed in the discussion.

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Alright, here's the problem I need help with:

A watermelon seed has the following coordinates: x = -7.2 m, y = 1.4 m, and z = 0 m. Find its position vector as (a) a magnitude and (b) an angle relative to the positive direction of the x axis. If the seed is moved to the xyz coordinates (5.9 m, 0 m, 0 m), what is its displacement as (c) a magnitude and (d) an angle relative to the positive direction of the x axis?

Parts a through c I've solved and have correct, but my answer to d is being rejected. I don't understand why.

For a I got 7.3m.

For b I got 169 degrees.

For c I got 13.2m.

However, for d I get 174 degrees, but that's wrong. I used the same proceedure for part b and got that right though! Could someone explain why please?

Thanks in advance!
 
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What are the x & y components of the displacement?
 
For the first two parts, the components are of course as listed.

For the latter two parts, I obtain 13.1 for the x component, and -1.4 for the y component.
 
frankfjf said:
I obtain 13.1 for the x component, and -1.4 for the y component.
Good. So how did you get your answer of 174 degrees?
 
I take the inverse tangent of -1.4/13.1.

Then I add 180 to it since it satisfied the first answer. Though admittedly I'm not sure why this is so. I originally thought adding 90 degrees to both would suffice, since isn't the first quadrant in the positive x axis?
 
Rather than try to apply some memorized rule, just draw yourself a picture. Identify the triangle involved, find its angle (using inverse tangent), and then translate the answer to an angle with respect to the +x axis. That way you'll be sure of your answer.
 
Ah-ha! I see what you mean. The first one needed to be adjusted to get there, but the second one doesn't, so I left it at -6.1 degrees and that was correct.
 
Now you're thinking. :approve:
 

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