Why isn't there shock wave in this case

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the absence of shock waves in a simulation conducted using FLUENT, focusing on the analysis of flow over a wedge. Participants explore the implications of simulation parameters, grid resolution, and flow characteristics, including viscosity and Reynolds number.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether shock waves are present in their simulation results and seeks validation of their findings.
  • Another participant suggests that in inviscid flow, shock visibility could be enhanced by plotting total pressure, while noting that viscous effects may obscure this in the current scenario.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that the shock is positioned approximately 2/3rds up the wedge surface and suggests that lowering the simulation altitude could improve shock visibility.
  • One participant proposes comparing the results to an exact solution for flow over wedges and emphasizes the importance of plotting stagnation pressure to observe jumps in stagnation quantities across the shock.
  • A participant raises a question about the asymmetry in the Mach number plot and notes a specific Mach number value that appears low, prompting inquiry about the grid used in the simulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the presence and visibility of shock waves in the simulation, with no consensus reached on the effectiveness of the current parameters or grid resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence the simulation results, including the effects of viscosity, Reynolds number, and grid resolution, but do not resolve these issues.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in computational fluid dynamics, particularly those working with simulations involving shock waves and flow over geometries like wedges.

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Hi everybody !

I have used FLUENT to do the following simulation ( it's 1.5 cm, not 1,5)

http://upload.tinhco.net/thoai/debai.jpg

I set 500 for "Number of Iterations". After running Fluent, I saw CL and Cd have convergenced, then I turn off the interation process. And here are my result


http://upload.tinhco.net/thoai/Contour-Mach.jpg


http://upload.tinhco.net/thoai/Contour-Pressure.jpg

Are my results right ? Are the shock waves in my result right ?

Here's my grid resolution ? Is it smooth enough to capture the shock wave ?
[/PLAIN][PLAIN]http://upload.tinhco.net/thoai/luoi.jpg[/PLAIN] Thank you in advance
 
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Everybody ? :(

Is there shock wave in My result ? :(
 
If the flow were inviscid, the best show of shock would be by plotting the total pressure. It would appear all red before the shock, and flow-parallel rainbow stripes after the shock.

Given that your example is viscous, plus at not too high Reynolds number and with a blunt tail, total pressure will not be that revealing (it will dissipate by the viscous effects as well as shock), but give it a try.

--
Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић)
 
It appears that the shock is about 2/3rds the way up the wedge surface, and is standing 90* in relation to the free stream flow before the wedge. At Mach 1 this is right on the money.
You didn't say at what altitude the simulation was run at, but if your trying to show the Mach shock better, lowering the altitude (keeping everything else the same) will increase the shocks density and visibility. Also of course, increasing the resolution will to, if you have the extra time.
 
Well the first thing I would do is compare this to an exact solution. I don't have my notes on my now, but I'm pretty sure there is a similarity solution to flow over wedges. I remember it being very very clever. Anyways, like said before it may be a good idea to plot total or stagnation pressure. You know that through a shock there will be a jump (jump being however well your grid can resolve the shock) in stagnation quantities.
 
Where does the asymmetry come from in your Mach number plot? Also, judging from your contour plot the Mach number on the left seems to be less then 0.8, what kind of grid did you use?
 
Thank you !

I'm now checking it out again through considering your comments. :wink:
 

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