Why Must Any 2-Cycle of the 2D Torus Be of the Form pγ?

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The discussion revolves around understanding a specific point in the proof of the homology groups of the 2-dimensional torus, particularly why any 2-cycle must be of the form pγ, as stated in Theorem 6.2 of Munkres' book on Algebraic Topology. The focus is on the theoretical aspects of algebraic topology and the properties of cycles and chains.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on why any 2-cycle d of the torus must be expressed as pγ for some integer p, referencing Munkres' proof.
  • Another participant explains that since d is a 2-cycle, it follows that ∂d = 0, and thus d must be a multiple of γ, leading to the conclusion that d = pγ.
  • A participant questions the assumption that an arbitrary 2-cycle is carried by L, expressing confusion about whether the term "carried by" refers to L or A.
  • A later reply clarifies that the focus should be on showing that ∂d is carried by A, which is satisfied since ∂d = 0, and 0 is carried by A.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of "carried by" and whether it applies to L or A. There is no consensus on the broader implications of these definitions, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the generality of the claim about arbitrary cycles.

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The discussion highlights the need for clarity on definitions and assumptions related to cycles and chains in algebraic topology, particularly in the context of the torus. The participants do not reach a resolution on the implications of these definitions.

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I am reading James Munkres' book, Elements of Algebraic Topology.

Theorem 6.2 on page 35 concerns the homology groups of the 2-dimensional torus.

Munkres shows that H_1 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z} \oplus \mathbb{Z} and H_2 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z}.

After some work I now (just!) follow the proof that H_1 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z} \oplus \mathbb{Z} but I need some help to understand a point in the proof of H_2 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z}.

Munkres' argument to show H_2 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z} is as follows:

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To compute H_2 (T), note that by (2) any 2-cycle d of T must be of the form p \gamma for some p. Each such 2-chain is in fact a cycle,by (4) , and there are no 3-chains for it to bound. We conclude that

H_2 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z}

and this group has as generator the 2-cycle \gamma.

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I do not fully understand why any 2-cycle d of T must be of the form p \gamma for some p.

Can someone please explain exactly why this follows?

Would appreciate some help.




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To give members of the Physics Forums the context of the post above, the text of Theorem 6.2 and its proof follow:

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Some of my thoughts ... ...

Basically, to show that any 2-cyclce of L (i.e. T) os of the form $$ p \gamma $$, we have to show the following:

If d = \sum_i n_i \sigma_i where \partial d = 0 then d = p \gamma.

We have, of course that \gamma = \sum_i \sigma_i

Note that we have that if d is a 2-chain of L and if \partial d is carried by A then d is a multiple of \gamma.

Munkres defines 'carried by' in the following text taken from page 31:


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Hope someone can help.

Peter
 

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Take a ##2##-cycle ##d##. Then obviously ##d## is a ##2##-chain. And also by definition of ##2##-cycle, we have ##\partial d = 0##. In particular, ##\partial d## is carried by ##L##. Thus ##(2)## implies that ##d## is a multiple of ##\gamma##, which means by definition that ##d=p\gamma## for some ##p##.
 
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Thanks micromass ...

OK so we take a 2-cycle d ... but how do we know that an arbitrary 2-cycle is carried by L?

BTW ...Do you mean carried by L or A? If as I suspect you mean A ... then ... how do we know that an arbitrary cycle is carried by A ... this is exactly my problem ...

Again, thanks for you prompt help

Peter
 
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Thanks micromass ...

OK so we take a 2-cycle d ... but how do we know that an arbitrary 2-cycle is carried by L?

BTW ...Do you mean carried by L or A? If as I suspect you mean A ... then ... how do we know that an arbitrary cycle is carried by A ... this is exactly my problem ...

Again, thanks for you prompt help

Peter

I meant ##A##. And we don't need to show that an arbitrary cycle is carried by ##A## (I doubt it's even true). To apply ##(2)##, we need to show that for any cycle ##d##, we have that ##\partial d## is carried by ##A##. This is what we need to show. But ##\partial d = 0## by definition of a cycle. And of course ##0## is carried by ##A##.
 
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Thanks so much ... that clears up that matter and gives me the confidence to go on ...

Thanks again,

Peter
 

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