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We need sex because we need something for Saint to obsess over.
Why scientifically, do we need procreation as a species?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the reasons for procreation and the role of sex in human society, exploring both the biological and social implications. Participants touch on themes of pleasure, morality, and societal norms, with a mix of serious and humorous tones.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
- Exploratory
Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest that sex is primarily for pleasure, while others acknowledge its role in procreation.
- There are varying opinions on what constitutes "proper" amounts of sexual activity, with some arguing that it is subjective and cannot be dictated.
- One participant humorously claims that if sex were not enjoyable, the world would be underpopulated, implying a biological drive behind procreation.
- Concerns are raised about the morality of sexual behavior, particularly in the context of marriage and fidelity, with some arguing that secrecy implies guilt.
- Discussions about the acceptability of sexual relationships outside of marriage lead to differing views, with some asserting that it is not acceptable if it cannot be disclosed to a spouse.
- There are provocative statements regarding the nature of laws and morality, with some participants questioning societal norms and legal frameworks surrounding sexual behavior.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of views on the nature and purpose of sex, with no clear consensus on the morality of various sexual practices or the implications of procreation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.
Contextual Notes
Some statements reflect personal beliefs and cultural norms, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes speculative and controversial claims about morality and legality that are not settled.
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Saint
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SEX is instinct,
but need moral control
but need moral control
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Math Is Hard said:
Yeah, it is. I learned that my going to an art gallery and seeing a piece by the Chapman brothers...
Don't have a clue as to why they do though
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chroot said:
Personal statistics: Practiced it from age 16 (learned it from my first lover, who was older and taught me). I was unusually active, growing up in the hippie era and being in the military overseas. Later practiced with two wives for about 32 years. Had one accidental pregnancy with first wife who at first insisted we use rhythm after she reacted badly to birth control pills. After than I went back to withdrawal and had no more problems.
Of course, those aren't comprehensive statistics. The problem is intepreting the statistics. I've seen quite a range in the statistics for the effectiveness of withdrawl. Cal Poly's student services, for example, reports 70-75% effectiveness. Caromont's hospital rep states:
What can account for that? In virtually every report I've read, the emphasis is placed on the ability of the couple to practice correctly. Yes, the presence sperm in preseminal fluid is listed as a danger, but is that the main reason for the failure?
Consider this report from the National Center for Disease Prevention and Health Promotion. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/
Notice it says "How effective the method would be if used consistently and correctly is unknown." My position is that control is the key. I didn't say this before (my wife just reminded me of it) but we combine withdrawal with rhythm, which would help increase the effectiveness even more.
Now let's consider your comment to me that I was talking out of my ass. If you read my statement, I said I was certain of the effectiveness of CI, which was how I purposely put it to indicate it was a personal opinion. I still am certain of it. Nothing I've read has made me change my mind that the failure rate is primarily due to lack of control. Since studies seem to be for the general population and not for the conscientous practitioner (which was the qualifier I put on it), I don't see how the "out your ass" barb was justified.
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Math Is Hard said:
It depends on your partner really
But for sure, it is a great way of living and leaving this wold
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humanino said:
It depends on your partner really
But for sure, it is a great way of living and leaving this wold
You got to die sometime, it might as well be in the sack.
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Most people failed to enjoy sex for the First time,
because they are not familiar with the Technique to do sex.
I took me about 2 weeks to get familiar with it after wedding.
because they are not familiar with the Technique to do sex.
I took me about 2 weeks to get familiar with it after wedding.
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Saint said:
Most people are too caught up with the techniques, and not much on the intimacy, feeling and deep connection.
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They're as many techniques as there are lovers.
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Loren Booda said:
And yet never enough! What fun it is to have a partner with whom you can explore as many of those as possible, and then make up some more of your own!
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Saint said:
I had a great first time.
In the bed...in the shower...she was the local beauty queen...ity was fun,andi need to not post drunk
good night ya'll
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franznietzsche said:
LOL! I always thought such things came naturally too.
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Moonbear said:
waIT...hwich part?
the confessions,or the activities? or the postiung while far from sober? I'm so confused...
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franznietzsche said:
You're very funny when drunk!
I meant the techniques. At least the basic technique anyway.Why are you drunk on a Sunday night? Or should I not ask why?
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Moonbear said:You're very funny when drunk!
Why are you drunk on a Sunday night? Or should I not ask why?
Well being drunk on a sunday is a combination of opprotunity + 3 week depression over getting turkey dropped (thanksgiving break up).
technique? i assume that means activity. I'm very confused.
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franznietzsche said:
Sorry to hear about the break-up. Those always suck. Well, you may have noticed, there are a few new women on the board here. Maybe it was just meant to be so that you can hook up with one them.
Oh boy, I'll explain it to you when you're sober.
Don't forget to take a few aspirin before you go to sleep tonight and keep a pitcher of water on your bedside. You're going to be hurting in the morning.- #167
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Gatorade works miracles against hangovers, I know I've tried it. It's cause it rehydrates you.
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Smurf said:
That, and because it's full of sugar. Anything with sugar and water will work. Any kind of juice or sport drink. Whatever you can tolerate the taste of without puking.
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Yeah, puking might even be the worst part of hangovers.\
Well, I mean either that, or not being able to get it up.
Well, I mean either that, or not being able to get it up.
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Smurf said:
No, the worst is when your stomach is completely empty, so it's just dry heaves.
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That doesn't happen to me, I just puke up bile instead
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Okay, that might be worse.Smurf said:That doesn't happen to me, I just puke up bile instead
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Naw, not being able to get it up still sets the bar.
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Smurf said:
Naw, getting it up is never an issue.
Finding someone to get it up in the presence of can be though.
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franznietzsche said:
Okay, now I know it's time for me to get some sleep. I thought he was still talking about puke.
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Moonbear said:Okay, now I know it's time for me to get some sleep. I thought he was still talking about puke.
Very nice moonbear, very nice.
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I never take aspirin and never had any problems with hangovers.
I drink tons of water and I eat lots. Most say they drink water, but a litre isn't enough. When I say you need lots, I said you need lots.
I drink tons of water and I eat lots. Most say they drink water, but a litre isn't enough. When I say you need lots, I said you need lots.
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JasonRox said:
I usually drink the same volumeof water that i had of alcoholic beverages. But then i get the drunken munchies and empty the whole fridge, so i have to go grocery shopping again the next day.
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i didn't think that a topic about sex could get any hotter. yet here i am, proven wrong, with you guys and your discussion on vomit and hangovers.
;)
;)
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relskid said:
And we learn that relskid has a sarcastic sense of humor! You'll fit in well kid! (I keep thinking of your nickname as rel's kid, even though I know you explained it's supposed to be rel skid...so the kid comment isn't related to your age, though, compared to me, it could be...LOL!).