Why scientifically, do we need procreation as a species?

[Smurf]

I'm not needy, I'm addicted!

Yeah! You tell her Franz!

 

[franznietzsche]

My personal definition is that if a person climaxes, it is sex of one sort of another.

That reminds me...

[annoying voice]
THIS ONE TIME, AT HER HOUSE...
[/annoying voice]

 

[JasonRox]

That reminds me...

[annoying voice]
THIS ONE TIME, AT HER HOUSE...
[/annoying voice]

I thought it was a band camp, but I could be wrong.

 

[franznietzsche]

I thought it was a band camp, but I could be wrong.

That was the reference yes...

 

[Shay10825]

Most youngsters have masterbation, which gives them a certain level of sexual pleasure. So, it is naturally they will feel curious to Explore sex with opposite sex. As long as they know how to avoid pregnancy and STD, do you think it is ok for them to ignore Virginity ?

I agree but most adults don't. They just say don't do it until your older but they don't know how hard it is to not want to. It's hard because you want to try it but you don't want to get and STD or pregnant.

We only need it once we've had it. It's a lot easier to not need it when you don't know what you're missing.

NOt really. It's hard not to do it because you don't know what you are missing. Everyone everywhere is talking about it (we even talk about it in some classes) and it's hard because you want to know what you are missing.

Some people (men) think that sexual pleasure has to do with the Physical Size of the genital organ. The longer the better!
To men, may be this is true.
But to women, sex is not only limited to physiology, but encompasses mentality too,
they need romantic ambience before having sex.

Another question is,
do you think sex is limited to "the penetration of penis into vagina?"

Yes and no. Yes if you are talking about weather or not it determines if you are a virgin or not. No beacuse you could do other things (oral sex) to get the same pleasure. Oral sex is not really "sex" but you still can get the same feelings without having "sex."

 

[Saint]

Using condom can reduce men's pleasure,
what alternative we have?

 

[Moonbear]

Using condom can reduce men's pleasure,
what alternative we have?

Masturbation. No condom, no sex, unless it's with your wife for the purpose of procreation.

 

[Saint]

The survey shows that, in america, most youngsters will feel shy if they are asked whether they have sexual intercourse experience and the answer is No,
thus, they are forced to get involved in sex as early as possible to avoid shame.

True?

 

[Shay10825]

The survey shows that, in america, most youngsters will feel shy if they are asked whether they have sexual intercourse experience and the answer is No,
thus, they are forced to get involved in sex as early as possible to avoid shame.

True?

It depends on who you are. There are some people that think that they have to do it to be "cool" but most people I know don't. Usually the people that call themselves "pimps" think that they have to do it. Most people just want to do it to see what it's like.

 

[Moonbear]

The survey shows that, in america, most youngsters will feel shy if they are asked whether they have sexual intercourse experience and the answer is No,
thus, they are forced to get involved in sex as early as possible to avoid shame.

True?

No, they do what youngsters have always done; they lie about it and say they did when they didn't.

 

[JasonRox]

It depends on who you are. There are some people that think that they have to do it to be "cool" but most people I know don't. Usually the people that call themselves "pimps" think that they have to do it. Most people just want to do it to see what it's like.

This must explain why Saint said "most", the keyword.

 

[franznietzsche]

NOt really. It's hard not to do it because you don't know what you are missing. Everyone everywhere is talking about it (we even talk about it in some classes) and it's hard because you want to know what you are missing.

No. That can be hard yes. BUt it will be much harder once you know what you are missing. Much.

 

[Saint]

if virginity is not important, then there is no taboo about sex, right?

Do you think parents have the right to control their children (17<age<21) NOT to have sex?

 

[Smurf]

I don't think Parents have any rights over their children, I think children should be educated by the community and no one person(s) should be given ownership or controll over them.

 

[Gokul43201]

I don't think Parents have any rights over their children, I think children should be educated by the community and no one person(s) should be given ownership or controll over them.

Yeah...let's see the community staying up all night or changing your baby's diapers.

 

[franznietzsche]

I don't think Parents have any rights over their children, I think children should be educated by the community and no one person(s) should be given ownership or controll over them.

Someone has seen Brave New World too many times methinks...

 

[Smurf]

Never seen it.

 

[franznietzsche]

Read it maybe?

 

[Smurf]

Don't even know what it is.

But I have heard the name before somewhere.

 

[chroot]

Masturbation. No condom, no sex, unless it's with your wife for the purpose of procreation.

That's a little nearsighted, Moonbear, don't you think?

Not only do condoms reduce (or, in my case, almost eliminate entirely) the pleasure of sex, they're really pretty horrible for preventing pregnancy, too.

In my opinion, condoms are a last-ditch form of birth control, adequate only when you have nothing else available and just HAVE to have sex. If you're going the responsible route, get everyone tested for STDs, get on some form of effective birth control, and go at it like bunnies au natural.

- Warren

 

[Moonbear]

That's a little nearsighted, Moonbear, don't you think?

Not only do condoms reduce (or, in my case, almost eliminate entirely) the pleasure of sex, they're really pretty horrible for preventing pregnancy, too.

In my opinion, condoms are a last-ditch form of birth control, adequate only when you have nothing else available and just HAVE to have sex. If you're going the responsible route, get everyone tested for STDs, get on some form of effective birth control, and go at it like bunnies au natural.

- Warren

Seriously, there is no 100% method, so condoms help prevent disease spread AND provide a barrier backup to whatever other form of birth control one is using. Their efficacy is actually pretty decent as long as they are used correctly (but should never be used without an added spermicidal jelly).

But, hey, that's just my opinion. If you don't find it any fun with a condom, then you can't sleep with me until we're married.

 

[franznietzsche]

But, hey, that's just my opinion. If you don't find it any fun with a condom, then you can't sleep with me until we're married.

Its not that its no fun with one, its just that its more fun without.

 

[chroot]

Moonbear,

Condoms are only about 84% effective against pregnancy when used perfectly. Most surveys have indicated that very few people use them anywhere close to perfectly. Their realistic efficacy is probably closer to 70%. Keep in mind that these figures are the odds per year. Every single year that you use condoms, you face a 30% chance of getting pregnant.

The number of diseases that are adequately stopped by condoms is dismal. Herpes, HPV, and many other diseases require only skin exposure, not body fluid exchange, and that unavoidably happens even with condoms.

Organizations like AIM provide complete STD scans, including HIV, with a one-day turnaround. Devices like the IUD have a 99.8%+ rate of pregnancy prevention. In the face of these technologies, there really is no excuse for relying upon the condom for long-term birth control and STD prevention. In fact, I'd say doing so is irresponsible.

If your partner actually has an STD, and you use condoms, you almost assuredly will eventually contract his disease. If you frequently have sex around your ovulation, and you use condoms, you almost assuredly will eventually get pregnant.

It happened to me, with a past girlfriend.

- Warren

 

[Saint]

Men's sexuality is wholelife,
women's sexuality declines after menopause,
so, can men Outsource their needs?

 

[Les Sleeth]

If your partner actually has an STD, and you use condoms, you almost assuredly will eventually contract his disease. If you frequently have sex around your ovulation, and you use condoms, you almost assuredly will eventually get pregnant.- Warren

I am married and not worried about STDs, but birth control is always an issue. I know of another method besides what's been listed, which has worked perfectly for me during a total of 32 years of marriage and living together with my future mate. That method is coitus interruptus (and yes, I am fertile).

There are additional benefits to CI than just getting to avoid other birth control methods. The best is how it teaches one to control ejaculation so that if one wants to enjoy extended love making sessions, one can stay at the ready :!) and fully involved. One's lovers really appreciate that skill too.

 

[Dooga Blackrazor]

I would disagree with that. I think it would weaken any emotional relationship with the wife (regardless of whether she knows) and I'd say it's disrepectful to the entire past relationship. Sex can be used as a physical expression but in my mind I believe it has much more potential. By making sex associated with love and turning it into something more than it may logically be I think more pleasure is achievable.

 

[chroot]

Les Sleeth,

You are correct that the withdrawal method is comparable to condom use in terms of effectiveness against pregnancy. That simply highlights how ineffective condoms actually are against pregnancy.

- Warren

 

[Dooga Blackrazor]

How do STD's work? After your tested are you safe to have unprotected sex - with the exception of worrying about pregnancy which I understand is never 100% preventable?

 

[chroot]

Dooga,

If you can guarantee that your partner is never unfaithful, then getting tested a couple of times over a year is adequate to guarantee that you are both clean, and do not pose an STD risk to each other.

The common contrary argument is that you can't ever really know if your partner is faithful or not.

- Warren

 

[franznietzsche]

Les Sleeth,

You are correct that the withdrawal method is comparable to condom use in terms of effectiveness against pregnancy. That simply highlights how ineffective condoms actually are against pregnancy.

- Warren

How does that even make sense? You just put more than a few words in his mouth. he didn't say they were comparable, he said CI has worked perfectly for him. There was no comparison. And of course that works, assuming you know when to interrupt, but it has nothing to do with condoms and their effectiveness.