Why should wave function be continuous?

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The discussion revolves around the continuity of wave functions in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to their implications for probability and physical systems. Participants explore theoretical aspects, mathematical reasoning, and specific examples, including the treatment of wave functions in the presence of singularities and delta potentials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that wave functions need not be continuous, suggesting that while the probability must be continuous, the wave function itself can be complex and may exhibit singularities.
  • One participant provides an example of a piecewise function to illustrate a wave function with a singularity, questioning the absolute value at that point.
  • Another participant points out that the limits from the left and right at a singularity do not agree, implying that a physical barrier would be required for such a discontinuity, referencing the nature of the Schrödinger equation.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of discontinuous wave functions on the expectation value of momentum and the requirements of the Hamiltonian, which necessitate continuity and differentiability of solutions.
  • Participants discuss the treatment of wave functions at delta potentials, questioning the assumption of continuity at points of infinite potential and the implications for analysis and calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of continuity for wave functions, with some asserting it is essential due to physical and mathematical principles, while others propose that discontinuities may be permissible under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of continuity and differentiability, as well as the implications of singularities and delta potentials on wave function behavior. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and assumptions that are not universally agreed upon.

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I think it needn't be continuous even if the probability should.
Wave function can be complex while probability is its absolute value.:bugeye:
 
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quanjia said:
I think it needn't be continuous even if the probability should.
Wave function can be complex while probability is its absolute value.:bugeye:


Sure, and if a complex function has a singularity, what is its absolute value there?:rolleyes:
 
I'm sorry that I can't catch you whole meaning exactly.

Let me construct an example as follow (f(x) is the wave function over x):
When 0<x<1/2, f(x)=e^(i*x),
when 1/2<x<1, f(x)= -2x+2,
and otherwise, f(x)=0.
there is only one singularity at x=1/2 with the absolute value is 1.




By the way,I don't know how to paste a picture or a formula quickly in this forum.How could I get information about that?
 
There are at least two problems here: there's no Hamiltonian for one. But more serious, in the function above, obviously the limit from the right and the limit from the left at x=1/2 don't agree. the only way this could happen physically is with some kind of weird barrier at x=1/2. The basic Schrödinger Eq. only allows discontinuous solutions for disjoint regions; that is continuity within a region, but not region-to-region. This, of course, is a well known aspect of differential equations.

Physically it will take a large perturbation to shift the absolute value of by a substantial amount over a very short region of space. So, it makes sense to me to extrapolate, and suggest that an amost infinite potential change is required to make an almost discontinuous change in a wave function. That's the intuitive reason why discontinuous wave functions are troublesome, and really refer to differences between two or more disjoint regions of space.
Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 
One of the more important reasons that the wave function needs to be continuous is that

[tex]\hat{p} \equiv - i \hslash \nabla[/tex]

so what happens to the expectation value of momentum if you have a discontinuous wave function?

Also, since the hamiltonian is a partial differential equation that is linear, there are a lot of theorems, one of which pretty much requires that the solutions be continuous and twice-differentiable.
 
Thank you,reilly and StatMechGuy.
You reply help me greatly.

But when we deal with delta potential,why we consider the wave function continuous at x=0 where the potential is infinite and the differential of the wave function is discontinuous?
Is it just for simplity in analyse and calculate.
 
Since the wave function should be a solution of the Schrödinger equation, it must be differentiable, thus also be continuous.
 
quanjia said:
Thank you,reilly and StatMechGuy.
You reply help me greatly.

But when we deal with delta potential,why we consider the wave function continuous at x=0 where the potential is infinite and the differential of the wave function is discontinuous?
Is it just for simplity in analyse and calculate.

You can go back to the Schrödinger equation and then integrate immediately around the delta function. If you assume the wave function is continuous, you get for sufficiently crazy potentials that the derivative of the wave function is discontinuous. That said, you never actually see a delta function potential in nature.
 

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