Why so much o2 left after So2 to so3 conversion

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of sulfur dioxide (SO2) to sulfur trioxide (SO3) in a catalytic converter using a V2O5 catalyst. Participants explore the unexpected retention of oxygen (O2) in the system despite a significant reduction in SO2 levels, raising questions about the underlying processes and conditions affecting the reaction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that entering the catalytic converter, there is 12% SO2 and 12% O2, but after processing, only 0.056% SO2 remains while 10% O2 is still present, suggesting that at least 6% O2 should have been consumed based on stoichiometric calculations.
  • Another participant questions the composition of the feed and the products being taken off, as well as the methods used for measuring O2 and SO2 concentrations.
  • Concerns are raised about the presence of water in the feed stream, with multiple participants confirming that no water is entering the stream.
  • Participants inquire about the process temperature and the amount of V2O5 in the catalyst beds, indicating a need for more operational details.
  • One participant suggests that something else may be happening to the SO2 beyond its reaction with O2, prompting further investigation into other components in the system.
  • Another participant proposes that either moisture in the gas could be converting SO3 into H2SO4 or there might be a leak in the system, emphasizing the importance of stoichiometric material balances in understanding the flow of gases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the retention of O2 and the fate of SO2, with multiple competing views on potential explanations for the observed results. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore various hypotheses.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the complete composition of the feed and products, as well as the methods used for gas assays. There are also unresolved questions regarding the operational conditions of the catalytic converter.

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I've 12% of so2 & 12% of o2 (volume %)
This is what entering the v2o5 catalyst converter. After the last bed 4th bed we have only 560 ppm of so 2 , I.e 0.056% of so2 , but 10 % of o2 still remaining. If the equation says half mole of 02 required for 1 mole so2 . At least 6% of o2 must have consumed for 12% of so2.
 
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First, what's the composition of the rest of the feed? Second, what are you taking off as product? Third, what methods are you using for the O2 and SO2 assays?
 
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First, what's the composition of the rest of the feed? Second, what are you taking off as product? Third, what methods are you using for the O2 and SO2 assays?
Sir, a volume of gas 150knm3 contains 12% so2 , 12% of o2 & remaining nitrogen. This enters the catalytic converter has 4 beds. Catalyst is v2o5. The so2 % & o2 % entering the first bed is mentioned above. The conversation of so3 happens in each bed. Typical adiabatic conversion. We have done analysis of so2 & o2 in each bed outlet. Found so2 % is gradually decreasing as the conversion happens. At the outlet of 4th bed the so2 % is .056% & o2 % is 10 %.
 
Roy art said:
Sir, a volume of gas 150knm3 contains 12% so2 , 12% of o2 & remaining nitrogen. This enters the catalytic converter has 4 beds. Catalyst is v2o5. The so2 % & o2 % entering the first bed is mentioned above. The conversation of so3 happens in each bed. Typical adiabatic conversion. We have done analysis of so2 & o2 in each bed outlet. Found so2 % is gradually decreasing as the conversion happens. At the outlet of 4th bed the so2 % is .056% & o2 % is 10 %.
Bystander said:
First, what's the composition of the rest of the feed? Second, what are you taking off as product? Third, what methods are you using for the O2 and SO2 assays?
Bystander said:
First, what's the composition of the rest of the feed? Second, what are you taking off as product? Third, what methods are you using for the O2 and SO2 assays?
If 12 % of so2 completely converts into so3 it requires atleast 6%of o2. Almost 11.5% of so2 is converted into so3. But y still 4th bed outlet has 10% OF O2 is remaining.
 
No water getting into the feed stream?
 
Bystander said:
No water getting into the feed stream?
No not at all
 
Bystander said:
No water getting into the feed stream?
Nowhere no oxygen & water is entering the stream
 
Process temperature? How much V2O5 in the catalyst beds?
 
Roy art said:
I've 12% of so2 & 12% of o2 (volume %)
This is what entering the v2o5 catalyst converter. After the last bed 4th bed we have only 560 ppm of so 2 , I.e 0.056% of so2 , but 10 % of o2 still remaining. If the equation says half mole of 02 required for 1 mole so2 . At least 6% of o2 must have consumed for 12% of so2.

Seems like something else is happening to the SO2, other than reaction with oxygen.

What else could you have in the system?
 
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Either you have moisture in your gas/reactor and the SO3 is turning into H2SO4, or you have a leak and your gas is leaving. Either way, willing to bet your total flow IN is not equal to the total theoretical flow OUT. You're measuring everything in %s, which may not be comparable to initial and final conditions. Have to do stoichiometric material balances though, since mass/moles in does not equal out when it comes to reactions.
 
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