In another thread, we were discussing Zonde's and the De Raedt's model for simulating Bell tests using a purported local realistic computer simulation. I have broken out into this new thread some results which will be interesting to those of you interested in this subject. I will start out by including a few relevant posts I made in that thread, and then you can skip to post #4 below to see my critique of the De Raedt models. To give some quick background, the De Raedt simulation is intended to take the format of a typical Bell test using Alice and Bob and polarizing beam splitters. They then use a formula that acts independently on Alice and Bob to reproduce the quantum mechanical results. The idea is that independence of the formulas proves that there could be physical independence as well. If so, a local hidden variable program is possible - at least that is the claim.